To go to the shop with Covid?

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My friend has Covid. Feeling crap but not at death’s door if you know what I mean.
I text her today to check and see how she was and if she needed anything. She said she didn’t as she was just back from the shops and got all she needed.
I said “should you be out with Covid” and she got really annoyed and said it isn’t the way it used to be and you can go out without a mask even though you are testing positive.
I didn’t want to cause an argument so I just said “ I don’t think you can” and left it like that. She is now bombarding my phone with links and all sorts trying to prove it is ok. I could have gone to get her anything she needed. She insists life goes on as normal and nobody needs to stay home.
AIBU thinking it is incredibly selfish to do this?

Not in our MAT - you are banned from school premises within 6 days of a positive test, no matter how well you are feeling - ( or maybe 5- can't remember)

I feel like your thread title and post don’t match

I’m sure loads of people have Covid and do go to the shops without knowing

No - still not remotely worried about covid. Still getting public transport, going to pubs, carrying on teaching, liable to get covid multiple times each year and could not give a shit. Fair play if you are nervous, but the rest of us are getting on with our lives and never think about covid!

Going without knowing you are infectious is just one of those things no one can do anything about.

Going knowing you are ill, with any infectious illness is selfish, antisocial and morally indefensible

I meant willingly knowing and the fact you didn’t have to.

I am not particularly nervous. I am severely immunocompromised, but like you carry on teaching anyway. As I said, a colleague had to have an amputation around 4 or 5 months ago because of covid. If you work in a school you are likely to have come across teenagers with diabetes, or heart conditions developed while they were suffering from covid. If it gets you, it will get you whether you say you are "still not remotely worried" or not

I am not taking about being worried living your daily life and getting on with things. I have not thought Covid in a long time and i am not nervous. It rarely crosses my mind! The question was is it selfish to go out WITH Covid and not wear a mask and go shopping when you don’t have to. Looks like most people think it’s ok.

I would absolutely say if you have flu you should self isolate & you're selfish & irresponsible if you dont. Flu kills a lot of people every year. Also even a mild case of covid csn lead to long covid which can be devastating. How can people be so selfish?

It is worth looking at the data here and judging risk. It is likely not to “get me”, in that like the last times I have had covid I will hardly notice, the same as most other people in the school. This is why everywhere in the world covid remains but everywhere in the world accepts that it is far more important to get kids and teachers into school and basically to ignore covid.

I had to when I had covid recently as I had to get
my daughter medicine. I wore a mask, avoided touching anything I could get away with and have never sped round a shop faster (I’m disabled so I was probably still slow but you know.. I tried!) I do think she’s morally in the wrong but she’s correct that there’s no restrictions. I certainly wouldn’t have gone out if I could have avoided it!

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2014/mar/three-quarters-people-seasonal-and-pandemic-flu-have-no-symptoms

Three quarters of people with flu have NO symptoms. Many more have v mild symptoms.

I had swine flu and regular seasonal influenza (took part in a university study) with no symptoms and extremely mild symptoms respectively.

Dp is NHS. Where he works, you are required to test if you are I'll and must stay away for a minimum of 5 days until better.

This is nonsense. See above.

its not illegal

Have you been living under a rock? You’ve been able to legally go out with Covid since Feb 2022

Are people really still obsessing over Covid like this.

Butt out. Her life, her business. We have all done enough for covid.
She is a twat to test (although she is getting 5 nice paid days off so why not).

For one the tests are useless, different strain etc etc. how many walked about with flu back pre COVID. Herd immunity best way. We can't protect everyone. Don't get me started about the jabs lol. Think you need to chill. Your friend obviously now feels uncomfortable but she shouldn't have to prove it.

Having had flu 3 times I can assure you that you can’t physically get up and go to the shops!!! FACT

That's severe symptomatic flu. People with severe symptomatic covid wouldn't be getting up and going to the shops either.
People with mild or asymptomatic covid could. And people with mild or asymptomatic flu could.

Erm. I have had flu twice (swabbed and confirmed) and in one case I had v mild cold symptoms and carried on running 10ks. In the other case, I didn't have a single symptom. I've probably had it more times besides but never been tested.

And as anecdotes =/= data, you'll see I've linked the actual scientific research above. In the majority of cases, flu has no symptoms

All restrictions were lifted ages ago! Why people are still even testing is a mystery to me.

I have covid right now. I’ve been at home (WFH) for 5 days but still testing positive. Tonight I had to go to the supermarket as I’ve run out of food, and I live on my own with no one to go for me. I wore a mask, only touched things I bought, and was out as fast as possible. Don’t see what else I could have done 🤷‍♀️

It is necessary in many situations, I have to test every day due to my cancer treatment. Anyone having hospital treatment, operations, etc need to test, anyone who knows they have been in contact with a positive case and are likely to be close to vulnerable people need to test, if family members in your household are ill some work places want you to test.... the list goes on and on. there are many reasons you need to test

I voted yanbu. She is right technically and legally, you are right morally