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To think it's no wonder people fly tip?

265 replies

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 19:36

Recycling day today - I put my bin out, along with a big cardboard box from a delivery that I'd flattened. It was too big to go in the bin, and thick cardboard which I couldn't break down. It's been left by the road, along with a bag of recycling from a neighbour who is waiting for a new bin. There's more cardboard been left across the street - looks like a microwave box that's filled with cans, judging by the few around it.

It's so frustrating - all of it could have been taken and recycled but now there's plastic bottles, cans and cardboard scattered all over the street! Can't get a skip appointment for love nor money so what are people meant to do?

My cardboard is going to work with me tomorrow - the house has an open fire so it'll be burned which I hate but there's nowhere to store it and it won't fit in the bin, especially not with another two weeks' recycling!

No wonder people resort to fly tipping when it feels so impossible to get rid of stuff through the waste collection!

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soupfiend · 17/01/2024 20:47

Growlybear83 · 17/01/2024 20:45

I have a lot of deliveries, some in large and very thick cardboard boxes. I've yet to find a box that can't be flattened down and cut up. Every single box or carton that goes into our recycling bin is folded or flattened before it goes in to maximise space. There are mini recycling centres all over the place nowadays - there's never an excuse to fly tip.

Presumably you dont have a disability in your hands or you have people around you who can support you if you do

Whats a mini recycling centre?

StrawberryShortbread2001 · 17/01/2024 20:50

Bobthethird · 17/01/2024 20:46

we don't drive so no tip runs. three kids, Xmas, big house sort out. We've got rubbish bags that won't fit in the bin. They're recycling so clean. Double bagged in black bags and we'll fit then into the bin over the next few weeks. It's an us problem not an excuse to chuck them somewhere to make them someone else's problem. We've also got big cardboard and polystyrene from new beds. V grateful to have a garage and i realise that's a luxury for some, but still it is a me problem to dispose of that rubbish safely, not leave it outside to be blown away or dumped over a railway embankment.
If your cardbnoard is plasticy, flatten it to open it then get it wet. If its normal cardbaord, get it wet. then stamp it dowm and squash it down. It'll dry compacted so take up less space.
Your neighbour needs to keep their excess waste in their own home and try to fit it in the bin next week or speak to a neighbour who uses less bin space or apply for a larger bin if they qualify or hire a skip or sort a tip run or take two tins a day when they walk to the shop and put them in the public bins. Not leave them to be scattered across the street for some poor animal to get stuck in

But if you put things in a skip or public bin are they still recycled?

BobnLen · 17/01/2024 20:52

It's dependent on the council, fortunately ours takes folded up cardboard boxes as well as emptying the bin, we also don't have to book the recycling centre to take stuff there which would be annoying

DyslexicPoster · 17/01/2024 20:55

I'm lucky as my tip doesn't require booking. They do go through your black bags though.

I'd just stick it in your black bin broken up tbh.

Sworntofun · 17/01/2024 21:00

Re booking tips- yes in some areas. I’m lucky in Greater Manchester where we can just turn up but I was horrified that I had to fill in a long 4 page (!!) online form just to take some stuff from my mum’s house to the tip in a town in Gloucestershire. So yes not always easy to get yo a tip. Totally wrong to fly tip though

Klcak · 17/01/2024 21:03

You're right OP - councils fuck ordinary citizens over with waste disposal. They make it extremely difficult. Having a tip that is not open much and needs an appointment is ridiculous and obviously leads to some people fly tipping. I wouldn't do it and don't condone it, but it's pretty obvious why it happens.

At my tip, you have to pay to dispose of random things - toilets, plasterboard, tiles, asbestos. Well, guess what people do with those things. They put them in black opaque sacks and sling them in the general landfill waste so they don't have to pay. You shouldn't have to pay for a facility that's council run that you have already paid the bloody council tax for. And it's making people put the stuff in the wrong bins to avoid charges. And fly tip. The asbestos particularly gets me - FFS tips need to take that for free and deal with it safely, rather than risk it going in general waste whilst trying to make a few pence off people.

Ilovemyshed · 17/01/2024 21:04

Our waste is every other week for recycling (wheelie bin) and same for general (different wheelie bin). No bottle collection.

We have no issues in dealing with our waste, take excess to the tip if needed, which we pre book. We break up boxes for the recycling bin and just make an effort to dispose of everything properly.

I just feel like loads of people on here find it just all a bit too hard and cannot be bothered.

Klcak · 17/01/2024 21:06

soupfiend · 17/01/2024 20:47

Presumably you dont have a disability in your hands or you have people around you who can support you if you do

Whats a mini recycling centre?

A mini recycling centre is a load of large bins in a supermarket car park or similar. These bins don't take landfill waste, just cardboard, paper, plastic, tins, glass. That sort of thing.

Well, guess what they did with our mini recycling centre. It was always overflowing so rather than empty it more often, they closed it due to it being "abused". Really pissed me off. It was a couple of streets from me and I used to use it often.

StarDolphins · 17/01/2024 21:07

I agree op. Just stick it on the lorry, it’s not hard.

Newhere5 · 17/01/2024 21:07

Leave it out in the rain, it will fold easily. Problem solved 🤷🏻‍♀️

mondaytosunday · 17/01/2024 21:07

Where we live major supermarkets have large recycling bins - I used them when we moved.
But our recycling guys pick up everything - I don't use a box gif my cans, plastic and glass, just white bags and they collect them. Dusky have an extra box of card which I just put in top of the recycling bin- it gets collected.
Complain to your council if the recycling is not collected.

Klcak · 17/01/2024 21:09

Ilovemyshed · 17/01/2024 21:04

Our waste is every other week for recycling (wheelie bin) and same for general (different wheelie bin). No bottle collection.

We have no issues in dealing with our waste, take excess to the tip if needed, which we pre book. We break up boxes for the recycling bin and just make an effort to dispose of everything properly.

I just feel like loads of people on here find it just all a bit too hard and cannot be bothered.

Well lucky you having a wheelie bin for recycling. We have stupid boxes with no lids. The recycling ends up everywhere. And when they empty the boxes, they drop loads of it in the road so we have to go and clear that up after them. Oh, and not forgetting that when they put the boxes down, they throw them so bits of plastic come off, leaving them split and sharp. And then when you go online and try to order a new one from the council (they'll only collect from their own boxes), they say "orders suspended until further notice".

People aren't making shit up. Councils are bastards!

ToastOfBristol · 17/01/2024 21:10

Totally agree. Our street rebelled - we just leave out anything that was not collected in the street - this fortnightly bin collection is as joke. Eventually the bin men started taking the extra bags! We just stack extra rubbish up against the bin. I would happily go to the tip if the council paid back the percentage of council tax they've saved by cutting the bin collections but that will never happen!

FuckinghellthatsUnbelievable · 17/01/2024 21:11

I work in waste services and fly tipping costs a high six figure sum ever year which comes out of your council tax. You can chop up cardboard I have a mini cardboard saw from a kids kit or you can use a bread knife. Where I am you don't need an appointment for the tip but it's not open seven days. It is open Tues Thurs, Sat and Sunday but people dump all sorts. This month I've had to deal with thousands of bottles ( If the bottle bank is full and you line them nicely up outside it's still flytipping and all went to landfill) sofas and chairs, lots of small furniture drawers/ coffee table/ shelves, 7 microwaves, two washing machines, mattresses. Not to mention hundreds of black bags this is just a small local recycling centre/ tip so dread to think how much people dump at the bigger ones.

Wanna17 · 17/01/2024 21:13

This is what you call an excuse to fly tip? 😂😂

Jeeez, either cut it up or fold it so it's smaller or don't be lazy and take it to the dump!

Vettrianofan · 17/01/2024 21:15

With thick cardboard like that. I stamp on it. Can you not do that?

GettingStuffed · 17/01/2024 21:16

If you don't drive you usually can't get to the tip

WhatACluster · 17/01/2024 21:16

@Sworntofun its bloody annoying isn’t it?

Our recycling centre is a 30 mins drive each way which makes a tip run over an hour. Plus the booking system is a royal pain.

One which is literally a 10 minute drive if I go slowly we can’t use as it’s a different local authority 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I have to admit the bin men did take all of the cardboard from Christmas and it was stacked up against the bin

But fly tipping is disgraceful and I do not agree with it at all

PaperSky · 17/01/2024 21:19

KnottyKnitting · 17/01/2024 20:15

Yeah - won't work where I live- bin men refuse to take the card if it's wet...

We have just been given these stupid canvas bags to recycle paper, plastic and cans. They are flimsy and don't close properly- ok if you have a garage to keep them dry but many people haven't got room for the 7 different containers we are now expected to use.

Once the canvas bags are emptied ( if they are emptied- very hit and miss) they blow about the roads and it's pot luck if they are next to your house when you come home. They are impossible for the bin men to empty without stuff blowing all over the road.

Our streets look like a bloody tip on bin day.

Oh and the green bin collection ( which we pay additional for on top of eye watering council taxes) are often not collected and even when you report a missed collection they rarely come again to empty it.

Our black bins are tiny and only emptied once a fortnight. Loads more fly tipping since this system started. Seriously- any half wit could tell you that the system we now have is not fit for purpose- which doesn't say much for the councillors who are hailing it a great success!

I’ve got a feeling you must live in my borough. Shit isn’t it.

Ive still got my plastics canvas bag, but the cardboard ones flown into the ether…. Council have done eff all despite numerous Email requests for a new one 😩

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 21:22

Klcak · 17/01/2024 21:06

A mini recycling centre is a load of large bins in a supermarket car park or similar. These bins don't take landfill waste, just cardboard, paper, plastic, tins, glass. That sort of thing.

Well, guess what they did with our mini recycling centre. It was always overflowing so rather than empty it more often, they closed it due to it being "abused". Really pissed me off. It was a couple of streets from me and I used to use it often.

I honestly can't think of any places like that around here. There's clothes recycling in the big Tesco but nothing at all anywhere else.

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FuckinghellthatsUnbelievable · 17/01/2024 21:23

StrawberryShortbread2001 · 17/01/2024 20:50

But if you put things in a skip or public bin are they still recycled?

Nothing from street bins (public bins) is recycled. Honestly they are generally full of dog poo so it'd be a disgusting task to try and sort stuff through to find recyclables. In my area they are emptied onto a small truck which tips in general waste. In a skip things only tend to be recycled if they are all the same so a skip of only wood or metal will cost you less than a mixed skip but thats more for builders.

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 21:23

Newhere5 · 17/01/2024 21:07

Leave it out in the rain, it will fold easily. Problem solved 🤷🏻‍♀️

They won't take the bin if the recycling is wet!

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EmpressSoleil · 17/01/2024 21:24

I dont drive so absolutely no way I can be taking anything to a tip.

I dread to think how many hours I have spent cutting through cardboard to get it small enough to be taken. For very tough cardboard I've had to resort to sawing through it!

To be fair though, it's not bad where I live. We don't have wheely bins, just a couple of old black round bins and green boxes for mixed recycling. But they come weekly and they take it all. For bigger things the council will come for £10 an item. And tbh they're also pretty good in that if there's an item or two extra there, they'll still take it.

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 21:25

Wanna17 · 17/01/2024 21:13

This is what you call an excuse to fly tip? 😂😂

Jeeez, either cut it up or fold it so it's smaller or don't be lazy and take it to the dump!

Did you read a single word that I wrote?!

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QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 21:27

Vettrianofan · 17/01/2024 21:15

With thick cardboard like that. I stamp on it. Can you not do that?

It's already folded flat but it's bigger (taller) than the bin!

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