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To think it's no wonder people fly tip?

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QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 19:36

Recycling day today - I put my bin out, along with a big cardboard box from a delivery that I'd flattened. It was too big to go in the bin, and thick cardboard which I couldn't break down. It's been left by the road, along with a bag of recycling from a neighbour who is waiting for a new bin. There's more cardboard been left across the street - looks like a microwave box that's filled with cans, judging by the few around it.

It's so frustrating - all of it could have been taken and recycled but now there's plastic bottles, cans and cardboard scattered all over the street! Can't get a skip appointment for love nor money so what are people meant to do?

My cardboard is going to work with me tomorrow - the house has an open fire so it'll be burned which I hate but there's nowhere to store it and it won't fit in the bin, especially not with another two weeks' recycling!

No wonder people resort to fly tipping when it feels so impossible to get rid of stuff through the waste collection!

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Drosera · 17/01/2024 23:26

I don't even have a recycling bin to scrunch cardboard into. Just a shitty blue bag the size of a 'bag for life'. On bin day I have to wheel out the black bin, then go back for the glass box, then do a third trip with the bag for paper/card and the bag for plastic. And I live up a path so it's about 50 metres to the road!

Drosera · 17/01/2024 23:27

People in other countries have to put it all in their car boot and drive to the tip.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 17/01/2024 23:30

Stanley knife will sort it, or chuck a bucket of water over it to soften then it will fold. Store it your house till you can get to the tip, or pay the extra to have the delivery take the packaging away. Never a reason to fly tip at all.

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 23:35

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 17/01/2024 23:30

Stanley knife will sort it, or chuck a bucket of water over it to soften then it will fold. Store it your house till you can get to the tip, or pay the extra to have the delivery take the packaging away. Never a reason to fly tip at all.

Please go back and read my posts.

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QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 23:36

Drosera · 17/01/2024 23:27

People in other countries have to put it all in their car boot and drive to the tip.

Did you miss the bit where I said there's no skip appointments?

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catscalledbeanz · 17/01/2024 23:36

I think you're getting an undue hard time here op. There is no excuse, BUT societally fly tipping is an easily predictable side effect of inadequate refuse collection services. To minimise fly tipping councils need to consider the impact of their policies and act accordingly to provide adequate provision whereby people won't feel like they have to fly tip. Seeing the council leaving all that recyclable refuse on the street will inevitably cause feelings of resentment, frustration and "the council leave shit everywhere so why should I care about the environment?!" Attitudes. It's not right. Fly tipping is awful. But it's predictable and council services should be such that it's minimised.

SwordToFlamethrower · 17/01/2024 23:37

That's what recycling centre are for. You take big stuff there.

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 23:38

SwordToFlamethrower · 17/01/2024 23:37

That's what recycling centre are for. You take big stuff there.

How when there's no appointments?!

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Drosera · 17/01/2024 23:46

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 23:35

Please go back and read my posts.

The ones where you said it was too thick to fold?

A Stanley knife (known as a 'box cutter' in the US) is for slicing not folding and will cut through even thick cardboard.

I mean, exactly how thick is this box? Confused

Catsbreakfast · 18/01/2024 00:04

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 19:52

Just to be clear - I'm not condoning fly tipping, nor would I ever do it but after today I can kinda understand why people would when stuff feels impossible to get rid of the proper way!

Don’t condone it but making a thread how it’s actually ok 🌼

DonnaBanana · 18/01/2024 00:08

Sorry, no, this is basically just involuntary littering.

QuestionableMouse · 18/01/2024 00:08

Catsbreakfast · 18/01/2024 00:04

Don’t condone it but making a thread how it’s actually ok 🌼

You've totally misunderstood my post.

I never said it was okay. I never said I thought it was okay.

I said I can understand why it happens when it seems impossible to get rid of stuff in the correct way!

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maddening · 18/01/2024 00:09

QuestionableMouse · 17/01/2024 23:17

Did you miss the bit about there being no tip appointments?

There will be more than one household waste site in your county - and not all work on an appointment basis - tbh it is v unusual - which county are you in?

maddening · 18/01/2024 00:10

And lots of supermarkets have recycling points in their car parks. There is no excuse at all

QuestionableMouse · 18/01/2024 00:10

maddening · 18/01/2024 00:09

There will be more than one household waste site in your county - and not all work on an appointment basis - tbh it is v unusual - which county are you in?

The new one is in a town that's a 15-20 minute drive away and they've been so busy they're turning people away.

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QuestionableMouse · 18/01/2024 00:11

maddening · 18/01/2024 00:10

And lots of supermarkets have recycling points in their car parks. There is no excuse at all

The only supermarket recycling point in my town is for clothes!

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maddening · 18/01/2024 00:11

QuestionableMouse · 18/01/2024 00:10

The new one is in a town that's a 15-20 minute drive away and they've been so busy they're turning people away.

Which county?

lollyforabrolly · 18/01/2024 00:19

Qustionablemouse I totally get your point, bins aren't getting emptied enough and idiots (not us) are fly tipping

lollyforabrolly · 18/01/2024 00:23

Doesn't matter about recycling anymore, everyone just wants rid of their rubbish

QuestionableMouse · 18/01/2024 00:25

maddening · 18/01/2024 00:11

Which county?

Why should I tell you that? Everything I've said is true.

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RichardMarxisinnocent · 18/01/2024 00:25

TheCurlyKnobhead · 17/01/2024 19:46

No excuse, take it to a recycling centre

That wouldn't work for me - the recycling centre, can only be accessed by car, there is no pedestrian access and I don't own a car. It's also pre booked appointment only so I can't even go by taxi. That said I would have made every effort to make it fit in the bin, and if I couldn't would have tried to walk to work with it where they have large recycling bins.

LuluBlakey1 · 18/01/2024 00:27

No excuse for fly-tipping. It is ignorant, lazy, selfish, uncaring, uncivilised behaviour.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 18/01/2024 00:27

SwordToFlamethrower · 17/01/2024 23:37

That's what recycling centre are for. You take big stuff there.

How do you do that without a car?

workingitout75 · 18/01/2024 00:37

Where I live, the appointment system at the tip is so much more efficient-no more queuing up,we just drive in ,drop stuff and drive out.

If you have a car, or can get on public transport with your rubbish (in black sacks) then please do,we have to look after our country as best we can.
Take it to the tip!

If dustmen forget it /don't have space on their truck, then email council and politely ask that they return asap.

workingitout75 · 18/01/2024 00:42

Bloody frustrating for you OP if there's no tip appointments.