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Princess of Wales

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Ormside · 17/01/2024 16:07

The abdominal surgery must have been pretty huge to expect a fortnight stay in hospital. I had a total gastrectomy and total vagotomy and only stayed ten days.

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avocadotoaststoppedmebuyingahouse · 19/01/2024 15:14

The Palace said she had surgery. Are they lying? It is possible I guess.

lieselotte · 19/01/2024 15:19

A friend of mine was in hospital for 17 days last year with Crohn's. Not everything is straight-forward and allows a hospital to kick you out.

I think it's a pelvic floor repair - she's had three kids after all. And it would fit with the long recovery time, you can't do much for three months. Yes, you can be out of hospital quickly but they're hardly going to kick the future Queen out of hospital like they do the plebs, are they?

couiza · 19/01/2024 15:33

avocadotoaststoppedmebuyingahouse · 19/01/2024 15:14

The Palace said she had surgery. Are they lying? It is possible I guess.

The Palace could be "economical with the truth" for sure! Especially if her treatment is for a delicate reason.

When they didn't state the reason for her surgery, they left it open for all and sundry (myself unapologetically included) to speculate left, right and centre.

I cannot see why the reason (a general one) could not be given. As if having (e.g.) a hysterectomy (call it gynae), bowel work (call it digestive) etc. was something to be ashamed of. TBH if they had given a reason it might have been great publicity on the POW's part to encourage others to look out for certain symptoms. The King announced his prostate op for just such reasons.

Which of course makes me suspect other - shall we say "embarrassing" reasons or reasons that have a stigma around them.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 19/01/2024 15:47

couiza · 19/01/2024 15:33

The Palace could be "economical with the truth" for sure! Especially if her treatment is for a delicate reason.

When they didn't state the reason for her surgery, they left it open for all and sundry (myself unapologetically included) to speculate left, right and centre.

I cannot see why the reason (a general one) could not be given. As if having (e.g.) a hysterectomy (call it gynae), bowel work (call it digestive) etc. was something to be ashamed of. TBH if they had given a reason it might have been great publicity on the POW's part to encourage others to look out for certain symptoms. The King announced his prostate op for just such reasons.

Which of course makes me suspect other - shall we say "embarrassing" reasons or reasons that have a stigma around them.

Well, of course they are "economical" with the truth.

She doesn't have to share her medical history with the nation.

GladAllOver · 19/01/2024 16:29

For fucks such leave the woman alone. It's not anyone's business why she's in hospital apart from her family and her doctors.

Ferraria · 19/01/2024 16:42

It's her body. She's entitled to keep her medical conditions private, just as anyone else is. Give the woman some space.

peakygold · 19/01/2024 16:52

After suffering with hyperemesis for two pregnancies like Catherine, I had developed gallstones so had my gallbladder removed. Complete bastard of an operation. If it's that (or anything else similar, to be fair) she has my sympathy.

couiza · 19/01/2024 16:54

She is public property. Paid for by our taxes and a few million here and there from Duchy lands. While I do accept her right to medical and personal privacy, as we all would, I am not sycophantic.

Speculate away I say, the way the information was given ensured speculation would happen anyway.

IcedPurple · 19/01/2024 17:02

She is public property. Paid for by our taxes

Most people are net recipients of 'our taxes'. Are they 'public property' too?

Are teachers, nurses, police officers and other civil servants 'paid for by our taxes' also 'public property'?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/01/2024 17:13

IcedPurple · 19/01/2024 17:02

She is public property. Paid for by our taxes

Most people are net recipients of 'our taxes'. Are they 'public property' too?

Are teachers, nurses, police officers and other civil servants 'paid for by our taxes' also 'public property'?

Yes, quite. Furthermore:

In FYE 2022, 53.8% of all UK individuals were net recipients (living in households receiving more in benefits than they paid in taxes).

Previous financial year: Civitas analysis of Office of National Statistics (ONS) data from 2020/21 showed a record 54.2% of individuals – or 36 million people – now live in households which received more in benefits – including non-cash ones such as NHS and education services – than they contributed in taxes (source: The Independent, 23/1/23).

Those people who are net payers should be able to treat the beneficiaries as public property going by that logic.

Allfur · 19/01/2024 17:19

Wow, pp are so protective over a complete stranger who'll most likely never read this thread.

Mylovelygreendress · 19/01/2024 17:21

Allfur · 19/01/2024 17:19

Wow, pp are so protective over a complete stranger who'll most likely never read this thread.

I sincerely hope she doesn’t read this thread . So many snide comments.,

couiza · 19/01/2024 17:36

IcedPurple · 19/01/2024 17:02

She is public property. Paid for by our taxes

Most people are net recipients of 'our taxes'. Are they 'public property' too?

Are teachers, nurses, police officers and other civil servants 'paid for by our taxes' also 'public property'?

Don't be silly. Most of those you mention actually WORK for the benefit of all of us. Great value for money for our taxes IMV. What do the Wales' do that benefits you or any of us?

Recipients of benefits are more than entitled to them. If they qualify, they qualify and with the cost of living in this country they bloody well need it. But benefit bashing is a sport on MN, much more so than a critique of the Royal Family. And don't give me the spiel about them "working", I doubt they'd know a day's work, childcare, the cost of living, commuting, NHS, GP wait times either. They don't need to you see.

I doubt any of the aforementioned recipients of taxpayer money can afford private health care, or two or three houses complete with staff and all the rest of it either.

IcedPurple · 19/01/2024 17:41

Don't be silly. Most of those you mention actually WORK for the benefit of all of us. Great value for money for our taxes IMV. What do the Wales' do that benefits you or any of us?

You've moved the goalposts there. First you said that Kate is 'public property' because she's 'paid for by our taxes'. Now you're saying that because, in your view, she is not 'good value', then we basically 'own' her.

As Princess of Wales and future Queen, Kate has a constitutional role. You may not agree with that, but it is the case. You still don't own her.

avocadotoaststoppedmebuyingahouse · 19/01/2024 17:48

Nurses and teachers have to apply for their job. I would be fine if you had to apply to be a royal family member.

notthatthis · 19/01/2024 19:12

KimberleyClark · 19/01/2024 06:31

At 42 Kate is not young, she’s approaching middle age!

For a patient, she's young

notthatthis · 19/01/2024 19:13

avocadotoaststoppedmebuyingahouse · 19/01/2024 17:48

Nurses and teachers have to apply for their job. I would be fine if you had to apply to be a royal family member.

I've always said this

notthatthis · 19/01/2024 19:16

quisensoucie · 19/01/2024 08:47

You need to do some serious research into anatomy if you thing the King's operation is on hiss 'ball'. Prostrate totally different

The prostate is a ball. It's not a testicle but it's a ball.
What did you think it was? A square?

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LadyWhineglass · 19/01/2024 20:05

I like cake.

Betsyhilton · 19/01/2024 20:07

Am I the only one who's getting the unpleasant feeling on this, and the Royal Family thread, that some posters are desperately hoping it's nothing as unalarming as a hysterectomy? Of course it may not be a hysterectomy, but so many posters rushing on to poo poo the idea, insisting that anyone they know has been driving a tractor the day after having a hysterectomy, no way would you be in hospital for more than 1 hour after a hysterectomy, up to 14 days is definitely something serious because my Uncle Clive was only in for 2 days after a heart transplant etc etc etc. It's almost as if they'd be disappointed that this much loved daughter, mother , wife and sister isn't at death's door.

Betsyhilton · 19/01/2024 20:49

Meant to add, I think some people just see her as some soap opera figure and forget that she's a real person with real feelings and real children, and parents and a husband.

Ferraria · 19/01/2024 20:56

Betsyhilton · 19/01/2024 20:49

Meant to add, I think some people just see her as some soap opera figure and forget that she's a real person with real feelings and real children, and parents and a husband.

I agree. She's a woman and mother and as entitled to privacy as anyone else. For all we know she might be feeling desperately worried and anxious.

quisensoucie · 19/01/2024 21:19

notthatthis · 19/01/2024 19:16

The prostate is a ball. It's not a testicle but it's a ball.
What did you think it was? A square?

Actually, it is walnut shaped and sits on either side of the urethra. When one or both sides enlarge, the urethra is narrowed, making peeing difficult.
It is not ball shaped