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Princess of Wales

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Ormside · 17/01/2024 16:07

The abdominal surgery must have been pretty huge to expect a fortnight stay in hospital. I had a total gastrectomy and total vagotomy and only stayed ten days.

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Cheshiresun · 18/01/2024 23:54

Makes me think of the old NHS, when patients were brought in a day or even a few days before an operation to prepare/stop medication/ensure nil by mouth etc. And then left to recuperate for a good few weeks after the operation. Bed rest has also become a thing of the past.

Now you just go in in the morning on something akin to a conveyor belt, and out as soon as possible, maybe the same day or next day! Depending on what it is of course.

ipredictariot5 · 18/01/2024 23:59

My DD was in that hospital for 2 days last year as she was a stem cell donor. Anthony Nolan Trust pay them to collect the stem cells once they have matched a donor ( my DD gave a swab six years ago at school and never thought of it again till she got a call!)
the hospital isn’t that fancy. There is a menu with paninis and soup instead of white NHS toast ( nirvana after you have had a baby !) but definitely a hospital you would not want to stay in longer than necessary. So I am surprised at the length of stay and was pleased to hear it’s not cancer as that was my first thought.
hope the two weeks is a cover and she is out much quicker

RiderofRohan · 19/01/2024 00:00

Well I heard it's actually Kate having her prostate out and the king having a hysterectomy. Newspapers are mixed up. So there.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 19/01/2024 00:21

notthatthis · 18/01/2024 23:43

Apparently it's mental health related. Nobody her age needs a 14 day hospital stay post surgery - not even in the private sector. Someone mentioned ED. It would seem more likely! Announcing Chuck's prostate right after seems like a cover up. Bizarre!

No one needs 14 days on hospital, surely that depends on what the issue is?

LaTricoteuseVieux · 19/01/2024 00:26

Catsarelikepringles · 18/01/2024 22:52

In MY case it was from making myself vomit.

With your thumbs?

Honeychickpea · 19/01/2024 00:43

ipredictariot5 · 18/01/2024 23:59

My DD was in that hospital for 2 days last year as she was a stem cell donor. Anthony Nolan Trust pay them to collect the stem cells once they have matched a donor ( my DD gave a swab six years ago at school and never thought of it again till she got a call!)
the hospital isn’t that fancy. There is a menu with paninis and soup instead of white NHS toast ( nirvana after you have had a baby !) but definitely a hospital you would not want to stay in longer than necessary. So I am surprised at the length of stay and was pleased to hear it’s not cancer as that was my first thought.
hope the two weeks is a cover and she is out much quicker

I very much doubt that the Princess of Wales will be eating from the hospital menu.😂

W13er · 19/01/2024 00:52

No idea why PoW is in hospital but she is in there. I was there earlier today and there are police on every door and inside. I don’t believe they would stand around as decoy if she’d already gone home.

It’s a lovely hospital but no/one wants to stay longer than necessary. I hope she gets well soon.

avocadotoaststoppedmebuyingahouse · 19/01/2024 01:24

She will not want to stay in longer than she needs to. I am sure like most mothers she would rather be home with her children.

Nanaof1 · 19/01/2024 02:08

Zanatdy · 17/01/2024 16:27

I had a whipple, major pancreatic surgery and it was 10-14 days (I stayed for 21) so yes this isn’t a hysterectomy or appendix removal. Respect her right not to disclose though

Oh man, whipples are rough! I hope you have recovered fully and without complications.

Zanatdy · 19/01/2024 04:49

Nanaof1 · 19/01/2024 02:08

Oh man, whipples are rough! I hope you have recovered fully and without complications.

Thank you. I can’t even begin to describe how awful the first couple of weeks in HDU were. I had it for chronic pancreatitis so it has brought me some relief, but I’ll always be on some kind of strong pain killers. But it’s meant I’ve been able to eat relatively normal again without horrific pain. I struggle saying then words it was worth it as I genuinely felt like I’d have happily died during those first 2 weeks (massive complications) but it was, my life is much better 5yrs on. I’ve got such a neat scar that you’d never know what’s gone on inside there. All caused by a stray gallstone damaging the pancreatic duct. Lesson there to anyone putting off getting a gallbladder removal, get it done as those little stones have changed my life. Thank you for your message, not many understand how brutal a whipple is. I sincerely hope the Princess hasn’t had anything like that done.

Zanatdy · 19/01/2024 04:53

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 19/01/2024 00:21

No one needs 14 days on hospital, surely that depends on what the issue is?

@notthatthis i stayed 21days after my whipple surgery. You’ve clearly no idea how major some surgeries are. Things like hysterectomy, appendix etc aren’t things that require 14 days but I spent 14days in high dependency and another 7 on the ward after the head of my pancreas was removed and all the ducts re-plumbed. 14 days is the average for that but I had major complications, but some are in 5-6wks after a whipple.

If I was turfed out after 2wks with all my drains and NG tube still attached (which required aspirating every 2hrs as my stomach stopped draining) I wouldn’t have made it to the hospital exit. One lady on the ward had been in 6wks, due to 2 major bowel surgeries for Crohn’s disease. What a silly comment, you clearly have no idea.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 19/01/2024 05:01

Friend was in for more than a month for a twisted bowel that required major surgery. Was touch and go for her. ICU and then HDU. Some surgeries obviously need longer. And yes NHS.

My dad was in rehab NHS for a month after one of his surgeries and he had already been in hospital for around 6 weeks.

I was in hospital for 8days c section after my first due to complications second I was out after 4/5. First I could have stayed longer but I just wanted my own bed as I’d been in hospital from around 30 weeks anyway.

JubileeJumps · 19/01/2024 05:19

I hope she isn’t in a ward where one day they randomly add another bed so you’re incredibly squashed like they did with my mum. Or forget to empty her catheter multiple times so her bed gets soaked! Or forget to give her food! Or a random crack addict isn’t put opposite her who causes a riot every night because she wants to go and see her dealer.

Or not check her blood sugars so she almost ends up in a diabetic coma - twice.
Because all these things happened to my mum in December. Not to mention the bed sores.
Two weeks seems a lot but I think rich people get better treatment because they are more important than common people.

willWillSmithsmith · 19/01/2024 05:46

notthatthis · 18/01/2024 23:43

Apparently it's mental health related. Nobody her age needs a 14 day hospital stay post surgery - not even in the private sector. Someone mentioned ED. It would seem more likely! Announcing Chuck's prostate right after seems like a cover up. Bizarre!

I was in hospital for two weeks after surgery and I was younger than her.

notthatthis · 19/01/2024 05:47

Zanatdy · 19/01/2024 04:53

@notthatthis i stayed 21days after my whipple surgery. You’ve clearly no idea how major some surgeries are. Things like hysterectomy, appendix etc aren’t things that require 14 days but I spent 14days in high dependency and another 7 on the ward after the head of my pancreas was removed and all the ducts re-plumbed. 14 days is the average for that but I had major complications, but some are in 5-6wks after a whipple.

If I was turfed out after 2wks with all my drains and NG tube still attached (which required aspirating every 2hrs as my stomach stopped draining) I wouldn’t have made it to the hospital exit. One lady on the ward had been in 6wks, due to 2 major bowel surgeries for Crohn’s disease. What a silly comment, you clearly have no idea.

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You clearly have no idea. So you stayed 6 weeks in hospital how many people have you seen have gastrointestinal surgeries? I bet I have seen more than you. Kate is young and fit and wealthy. She will not have the comorbidities of a regular person on the NHS.
Your comment is silly. She doesn't have what you had, Crohn's or malignancy.

notthatthis · 19/01/2024 05:50

willWillSmithsmith · 19/01/2024 05:46

I was in hospital for two weeks after surgery and I was younger than her.

On the NHS where you have to wait an entire day for your blood tests to be reviewed? She's young and fit, and wealthy and lacks the co-morbidities most people on the NHS are admitted with. She will get first class service not all day in bed waiting for a ward round at 4 pm.
Strange they announced about the kings ball at the same time to try and mask Kate's situation.

Zanatdy · 19/01/2024 05:52

notthatthis · 19/01/2024 05:47

You clearly have no idea. So you stayed 6 weeks in hospital how many people have you seen have gastrointestinal surgeries? I bet I have seen more than you. Kate is young and fit and wealthy. She will not have the comorbidities of a regular person on the NHS.
Your comment is silly. She doesn't have what you had, Crohn's or malignancy.

How do you know what she’s got? I was young and healthy too before my gallstone damage. Plenty of young people stay in for weeks, NHS or private.

KimberleyClark · 19/01/2024 06:31

notthatthis · 19/01/2024 05:50

On the NHS where you have to wait an entire day for your blood tests to be reviewed? She's young and fit, and wealthy and lacks the co-morbidities most people on the NHS are admitted with. She will get first class service not all day in bed waiting for a ward round at 4 pm.
Strange they announced about the kings ball at the same time to try and mask Kate's situation.

At 42 Kate is not young, she’s approaching middle age!

Grandmasswag · 19/01/2024 07:15

As an aside I’ve never heard of Russell signs. I have a friend who I’ve been worried about for a long time and I’m pretty sure she has them unfortunately. I was wondering if I was being paranoid.

Longma · 19/01/2024 07:32

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sashh · 19/01/2024 07:47

Ormside · 17/01/2024 16:38

I wasn't fishing to find out I was simply expressing concern. For a planned surgery it seemed a long predicted stay. I've had several major abdominal operations and have a life limiting condition, the only ones I stayed that length and longer were for very emergent reasons.

I think, and this is just my opinion, she went in for something keyhole but they had to go to 'open'.

That would explain why William was booked to do engagements and then cancelled.

Whazzabanger · 19/01/2024 07:50

‘the hospital isn’t that fancy’

oh bless you. Even in a private hospital there a differing levels. She’s in the fancy part.

although I do agree that someone who sleeps in palaces and has servants at her beck and call, probably would rather not stay too long.

AInightingale · 19/01/2024 08:40

A hysterectomy due to endometriosis could be more complicated I s'pose. Doesn't the tissue grow form in the bowel and bladder in severe cases? The fact that women are discharged from NHS hospitals within days proves nothing - that's to free up the beds.

TheLogicalSong · 19/01/2024 08:45

AInightingale · 19/01/2024 08:40

A hysterectomy due to endometriosis could be more complicated I s'pose. Doesn't the tissue grow form in the bowel and bladder in severe cases? The fact that women are discharged from NHS hospitals within days proves nothing - that's to free up the beds.

I had exactly that - my ovaries were fused to my bowel - done privately, and I was still only in for two nights.

LadyEloise1 · 19/01/2024 08:46

JubileeJumps · 19/01/2024 05:19

I hope she isn’t in a ward where one day they randomly add another bed so you’re incredibly squashed like they did with my mum. Or forget to empty her catheter multiple times so her bed gets soaked! Or forget to give her food! Or a random crack addict isn’t put opposite her who causes a riot every night because she wants to go and see her dealer.

Or not check her blood sugars so she almost ends up in a diabetic coma - twice.
Because all these things happened to my mum in December. Not to mention the bed sores.
Two weeks seems a lot but I think rich people get better treatment because they are more important than common people.

I'm sorry that happened to your Mum.
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