To ask if Donald Trump could actually be president again?

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I've just seen a headline about him now being the front runner for the Republican nomination. Which I assume means it's entirely a possibility that he could then win.

I'm British (English) so I know our current government is a complete embarrassment. But I will never get my head around DT having been president once never mind possibly twice.

How could this happen??

The world is in a bit of a state conflict wise so if he does get in and wants to sort it out it’ll be hard, hopefully doable

There was a NATO supreme chief (or other great title) talking about their major concerns as if Trump pulls out then it is hugely weakened. He also said with the Houthi stuff NATO needs to be stronger and not leave it to US / UK all the time

On one hand Trump might help reduce conflict on the other Europe could be massively exposed and we’d better start getting our defence stuff together with other remaining NATO allies

I can see why the chief guy was very concerned

I read on here that Democrats have a tradition of not really opposing the current president should he decide to run for a second term. Biden is a terrible candidate but Trump is going to worse and I wouldn’t be surprised if Taiwan joined Ukraine in being at severe risk.

Joe Biden? that happened. I think Trump is the best president of all time. We need him desperately now.

I have American friends who are Republican leaning. Socially and fiscally conservative. They are appalled by Trump's personality and some of the things he comes out with, are well aware that he is a national embarrassment. But on the other hand, they would not vote for Biden - he is too old, too frail, hasn't had a great first term as President, not a fan of Kamala Harris as deputy.

So they feel it is a binary choice between one and the other and they will hold their noses and vote for Trump. He will get back in again.

That would be a constitutional change so I can't see that happening

Biden has really tanked his chances by how gung-ho he's being about slaughtering tens of thousands of children in Gaza. There are thousands of democrats now refusing to vote for him because of it. If I was American I'd also be having trouble deciding who to vote for. I'd never vote for Trump but I don't think my conscience would let me vote Biden either. I'm having the same problem with Keir Starmer.

MandyMotherOfBrian · Today 11:04

MrsSkylerWhite · Today 10:54

MandyMotherOfBrian

Is that still the case if the candidate is serving a prison sentence?
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Yes. Although in reality the need for a functioning President would probably override any prison sentence and so the sentence would be set aside or put on hold.”

Good grief.

This is the result of the lunacy of putting forward a decrepit, hugely unpopular 81 year old and his witless VP for a second term.

The Republicans have lots of young candidates. Vivek Ramaswamy is my favourite, he's a young trump, a true maga.

Trump only has a chance because Biden is so useless. He will be elected the next president I am 100% sure of that. but hopefully that will draw a line under the woeful state of us politics and it will see a whole new crop of younger and more in touch candidates come forward. The real question is how much damage he does in the next 4 years which scares the hell out of me.

This is what's insane though. Biden is old and thin, Trump is old and fat - I don't see why either of them are the best their party can find.

Trump tried to mount an insurrection. Surely even if you were 'not a fan' of Kamala Harris, it's better than someone who tries to overthrow democracy?

I know you're just relaying what they are saying, but it's still absolutely batshit.

Trump basically believes Europe should sort its own problems out with NATO.

TBF, it is hard to argue with his stance. For years EU states have been underfunding their military and placed the burden on the US to shore up NATO.

There's no reason of course why countries like Germany shouldn't do their fair share of spending. German spending is increasing, but they have a long way to go before they compensate for the years of underspending on defence.

Of course the US should take an interest in world affairs because in securing Europe it secures itself. But that doesn't mean rich European countries shouldn't make a fair contribution too.

My guess is millions of Americans actually think Trump has a valid point on this.

And this of course is part of the problem with labelling politicians as all mad and bad, or old and senile.

People seem to want to make Biden’s dire rating due to his lukewarm for Israel. Forgetting he had similar poll ratings way before October 7th.

He promised to be a moderate president who would bring people together. Utter lie. He wiped out women’s sex-based rights by executive order on day one, pretends to believe men can change sex, and has let 8-10 million people enter the country illegally.

He is also very visibly way too old for the job. He can hardly get a sentence out or find his way off a stage. He keeps rambling about things that happened to him - that never did. He also only works a few hours a day and is on holiday almost 50 percent of the time. For some reason he largely gets a pass with all of fhis, probably because the media are almost exclusively left-leaning. Comedians won’t make jokes about him or Harris - they’ve stopped speaking truth to power.

And still people have seen what the reality is. Biden cannot campaign on his own record. Listen to him. It’s all ‘January 6th!!!’ and ‘democracy!!’. On endless repeat.

I don't get how it seems to have come down to Biden and Trump again - both are too old and have not great records.

I did think Republican's would do a bait and switch - look like they were backing Trump then switch to a better candidate and trounce Biden but that looks less and less likely.

Nearly 3 quadrillion dollars off debt. Sleepy Joe just keeps printing money. There's already a civil war, immigration, race and gender issues are all thanks to Democrats policies.

Me too. I know ours has faults but at least here you have to become an MP, then leader of your party before you can become Prime Minister. It seems that over there anybody who's rich enough can just declare they're running for president. Very strange set up.

Total madness

how can someone mired in all this shit be a candidate for US president- what a laughing stock

I think it’s v likely Trump will win - which is scary in itself.

At the end of his term, will he leave quietly? Or will he try to stay on/nominate one of his family members to take over? He’s already ‘joked’ about becoming a dictator. I find the whole thing deeply concerning

I'm really afraid too. I'm not sure I can take what felt like being inside his crazy head, with the non-stop uncensored tweets that were reported in papers daily. It drove me crazy. It's felt like peace with Biden despite the fact that we've had anything but peace in the world.
Russia and China are apparently waiting for Trump to get back in so they freer reign to do whatever they want.
It feels like we are moving towards a third world war with so many countries going backwards in their ideologies. When we need to be concentrating on climate change and using the massive wealth of first world countries to assist those struggling to bring themselves up.
This is why I hate politics, because it's so upsetting. I'd like to put my head in the sand for 4 yrs if Trump gets elected again. Can you imagine what he would change? Would we have an American dictator?

Yes I’m sure his voters agree with that stance and I can understand it to a degree

I think those worrying more about US are missing this impact though, it’s Europe that becomes more vulnerable

US voters who want him in will likely be ok (up to a point as you say world stability affects all) but it’s NATO allies left who will have to fill the huge funding hole and try and navigate everything with a weakened organisation

Totally agree. But you forgot about Biden victimising black Americans thus encouraging racism.

I suspect he will try and hand over to one of his sons!

My SiL lives in the US although she's British and has pretty much the same idea of Trump as many of us over here. She's amazed at how many people she knows would vote for them when she's previously seen them as sane, rational people.

This is actually a benefit in their eyes. They don't want to support Ukraine for various reasons and Trump ditching Ukraine support is a good thing for them.

We must also remember, there is a growing, more vocal minority in Europe also calling for Ukrainian support to be dialled back. Russia isn't a threat to NATO countries (as much as the briefings want us to believe), and it is reasonable to question why the continued support for Ukraine when there are other priorities at home.

I am no fan of trump. He terrifies me and I think he is totally corrupt. However a good friend who teaches politics at a university thinks that putin would back down in the Ukraine as he's also terrified of trump and worries about that he will do.