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Lodgers boyfriend using our address

211 replies

cosmobrown · 15/01/2024 11:50

We have an annex which we rent out.
Our lodger, (lets call her Mary) asked if boyfriend can stay over every so often. We said yes, as long as he didn't add significantly to electric bill or wear and tear etc. All happy.
Mary's post gets delivered through our main door and we pop it into the annex. No problems from anyone.
BUT, for the second time, I have received post for boyfriend. I assume it is the boyfriend, as the initial is correct, but I do not know boyfriends surname.
I feel as though boyfriend shouldn't be using our address.
AIBU?

OP posts:
KissMyArt · 15/01/2024 18:31

But just to add to my last post, it doesn't matter whether she's a tenant or a lodger.

Her boyfriend isn't on the agreement and doesn't pay rent because he doesn't live there.

Therefore he has no right to use it as a mailing address.

Spirallingdownwards · 15/01/2024 18:33

WhimsicalMoth · 15/01/2024 16:42

May I ask why the boyfriend's mail is an issue, if the lodger (tenant's) are aren't ?

She will have credit checked and referenced her lodger but knows sweet FA about him and whether he will affect her credit ratings.

Thatladdo · 15/01/2024 18:42

araiwa · 15/01/2024 13:34

Just pass it on

He's using his girlfriend's address

Why the storm in a teacup?

Its only a storm in a teacup until he gets caught with drugs and its your house being searched - for one example of many.

Need to get to the bottom of it and make clear if its an unacceptable risk to you.

mathanxiety · 15/01/2024 19:49

MumblesParty · 15/01/2024 18:29

@WhimsicalMoth the lodger lives there. She presumably has some sort of contract with OP, which will cover insurance, liability, council tax etc. That will be her registered address for her bank, job, council tax, electoral roll, credit card, car registration and so on. Anything she’s involved in, any crimes she commits, and debts she runs up - it’ll all come back to her at that address. But OP won’t be negatively impacted because there is a contract proving she lives there legally.

The boyfriend is a random. He has no contract. He could do any number of things and it would be traced back to OP’s address, but OP would have no protection from liability because there would be no contract or agreement.

You can’t just pick an address and tell people you live there!

Edited

Indeed.

He could be a registered sex offender attempting to circumvent address/ registration requirements too.

MillicentRogers · 15/01/2024 20:05

I would not pass it on and I would speak sternly to Mary and say that it's not on for her boyfriend to give out your address for anything to be mailed to him and you will be returning to sender as 'not known at this address'.

It's a piss take and you are right to want to stop it.

cosmobrown · 15/01/2024 20:15

@KissMyArt MARY IS A LODGER NOT A TENANT.
Why are you so hell bent on deciding Mary is a tenant when you do not know the set up of my house? I do not need to explain the set up of my house on MN.

OP posts:
SkulkHollow · 15/01/2024 20:29

Op is only assuming this letter is for the boyfriend on the basis of the first initial.

It might not even be for him. Talk to Mary, find out who it is for and if it is the boyfriend, then ask why it's been sent to op address. Then, ask that it doesn't happen again.

No further fuss required.

TheresaCrowd · 15/01/2024 20:37

Explained most simply: the main difference between a tenant and a lodger is that a tenant will live in a property you're renting out, but you don't live there too. A lodger is someone who lives in a property that you live in too.

From Google ^^

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/01/2024 20:49

CoffeeMachineNewbie · 15/01/2024 17:24

Can you talk to lodger and just say he letter have arrived marked for X but you're not sure why he is getting post delivered as he is not permitted to live there.

This

Simple

Ask and you will find out

MistyMountainTop · 15/01/2024 21:28

As Mary's post is coming through the OP's door, she obviously doesn't have her own front door so she's a lodger

WhimsicalMoth · 15/01/2024 21:33

MistyMountainTop · 15/01/2024 21:28

As Mary's post is coming through the OP's door, she obviously doesn't have her own front door so she's a lodger

She may well have her own door, but postmen probably wouldn't think to deliver to anywhere other than the main door.

Cosyblankets · 15/01/2024 21:45

araiwa · 15/01/2024 13:34

Just pass it on

He's using his girlfriend's address

Why the storm in a teacup?

What if he has a debt and it ends up being connected to her address.
Return to sender
Not at this address

KissMyArt · 15/01/2024 21:50

MistyMountainTop · 15/01/2024 21:28

As Mary's post is coming through the OP's door, she obviously doesn't have her own front door so she's a lodger

My aunt lives in an annex and her front door is in the garden, so the postman can't access it.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 15/01/2024 22:05

Send it back. I work at a place where there is onsite staff. A bank/credit card statement turned up with a name I didn’t recognise, it was one of the staffs gf who hadn’t even lived there. I sent it back and the staff member was told in no certain terms that the gf cannot set up anything to do with the company.

Reugny · 16/01/2024 00:56

KissMyArt · 15/01/2024 21:50

My aunt lives in an annex and her front door is in the garden, so the postman can't access it.

Not all annexes are the same.

Some have their own front doors that can be accessed by visitors and delivery services, some can't.

Also as councils like their council tax, it clearly isn't a separate dwelling in this case.

TheBerry · 16/01/2024 21:39

Honestly don’t get why it’s a big deal, but I seem to be in the minority.

LowLevelGrumpMostly · 16/01/2024 22:30

Debts cannot be connected to addresses only people and it’s been this way for decades. So many out of date experts 🙄

ColesCorner7814 · 17/01/2024 04:04

KissMyArt · 15/01/2024 18:29

She's definitely a tenant but for some reason the OP is hell bent on calling her a lodger.

Even though they don't live in the same building.

The OP said Mary lives in the annex. An annex is/can be a separate building to the house, but is built on the same plot of land and uses the same address. It cannot be sold as a separate dwelling and is part of the same property as the main house. Therefore, Mary is a lodger, not a tenant, as the OP also lives at that address. It makes no difference if the annex is attached to the house or is a separate building.
My family have this exact arrangement, but I am Mary! Me and my family are lodgers in my parent’s annex (a separate 3bed detached property on the same land as their 4 bed detached, using the same address). We are not tenants.

Forgottenmypasswordagain · 17/01/2024 05:00

I would write Return To Sender, Not at This Address" and post it

Anisette · 17/01/2024 05:21

WhimsicalMoth · 15/01/2024 16:42

May I ask why the boyfriend's mail is an issue, if the lodger (tenant's) are aren't ?

Because having randoms shown as being at that address could affect her credit rating?

FloofCloud · 17/01/2024 05:58

In all honesty, , if it looked official (ie not a Christmas card or letter from a friend etc) I'd open it, check what it was and call the company to cease using my address ... goodness knows what he's doing otherwise

Newchapterbeckons · 17/01/2024 06:05

The very fact he has started using your address without permission is CF behaviour and very rude, it also highlights to me an intention to move in, he is getting his feet under the table so to speak.

I would send the letter back and have a conversation with the lodger. I would also limit the bf visits to three maximum , this has moving in by stealth written all over it, and confirm with her he will never be welcome to move in.

BillyNotQuiteNoMates · 17/01/2024 06:11

I’d just ask Mary if she knows who the addressee is, and then ask that he doesn’t use the address - assuming that the addressee is actually the BF.

BillionaireTea · 17/01/2024 06:18

Yeah, but, right, the main thing is, is she a lodger or a tenant???

VeganNugsNotDrugs · 17/01/2024 06:19

For the love of God just ask Mary and then let us know

My money is on something very unsuspicious but MNers do love to create a drama.

I reckon Mary has paid for something for Joseph or John or whatever his name is, hence it being his name but her address (the billing address). Maybe he has always wanted to go scuba diving and she's paid for a year's membership but wants it to come to her so she can give it to him for his birthday (or something equally as unexciting).

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