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Letter from the employer…what could it be?!

168 replies

AnxietyLevelMax · 14/01/2024 08:15

Letter has been sent out to all of the employees asking to attend a meeting on xxx day to update us on “current business position and proposed changes” and also stating “there will be no information provided prior to the meeting”…. Sounds scary!
what it could be? Company is not making losses. HR director who usually works from
home far away and only in the office few days a month has been rented a flat next to the company to be in the office daily for some
time now…everyone got a bonus in December cause company met the threshold (+200 employees)… has anyone had similar?

OP posts:
NeedToChangeName · 14/01/2024 10:40

FrenchFancie · 14/01/2024 10:07

I’ve had a nearly identical letter sent, except our meeting is last thing this Thursday coming up. Honestly think it’s redundancies - especially because big boss came to our site this week and is usually very jolly, talking to all the lowly employees, but wouldn’t even acknowledge our existence this week. Suspect I’m for the chop on Thursday and it’s not a nice feeling at all….

@FrenchFancie Redundancy is unpleasant, but I've met so many people who say it all turned out better in the end. good luck

Zonder · 14/01/2024 10:45

So stressful. It would be easier if they held the meeting immediately instead of leaving you all stewing over the weekend.

BarbaraWoodlouse · 14/01/2024 10:45

Voucherwoes · 14/01/2024 09:28

Don’t panic. Yes it’s likely to be something that results in redundancies sadly (this is exactly how every restructure
I’ve ever been through has started) but that doesn’t mean that you personally will be made redundant. While it’s a sickening feeling waiting for it - if it’s at scale you’re likely to have a reasonable consultation period.

Great response. Very hard not to worry OP but try to keep calm. In the event you are impacted, I know plenty of people, myself included, who have been through it and after some worry and turmoil ended up in a much better position.

BigFatCat2024 · 14/01/2024 10:51

Sounds like they will be announcing a restructure, and will initiate a consultation straight after

lauramum85 · 14/01/2024 10:54

Sounds like an acquisition. If it is, hopefully you will keep your job and will be tuped over. Happened to me.

BigFatCat2024 · 14/01/2024 10:57

AyeRightYeAre · 14/01/2024 09:40

I heard they try to deliver the worst information on a Friday then leave for the weekend

Bad employers do this.

Good employers avoid Fridays to ebsthat people are left over the weekend without the chance to ask questions or be supported.

I agree, good employers minimise the amount of time people worry. They would usually send something out the day before not on a Friday

CurlewKate · 14/01/2024 11:00

Takeover. Merger. Massive downsizing. Receivership. Nothing good, I'm afraid.

AntiDevil · 14/01/2024 11:04

This has happened to me twice in the last 6 months (albeit by email not letter) first it was that my office was closing and we were being relocated, and then just before Christmas it's because we are merging being taken over with another firm.

WimbyAce · 14/01/2024 11:12

My other half had this and the meeting was April 1st, can you imagine doing it on April Fool's Day?! Was a takeover and redundancies.

elessar · 14/01/2024 11:19

When this happened to me it was redundancies - our US HQ had decided to consolidate a number of business functions in the US. The meeting was on a Thursday and I think we got the invites earlier in the week.

I knew something was up beforehand though as my boss (the MD) has flown to the states on short notice the week before and then didn't show up to the office after that, it was all very cloak and dagger.

Hope it turns out ok for you OP, even if there are redundancies it may well not affect you directly. Let us know what happens!

Wonderfulstuff · 14/01/2024 11:20

Whatever it is I think it's certain that changes are coming - even if they don't directly effect you. This is all out of your control and is currently unknown so it's totally normal to feel scared/anxious/panicked.

Whilst you can't personally change anything right now you can do some things to prepare for the worst which might help you feel little bit more in control... things I'd consider doing include brushing up my CV, start to look online for new roles, have a look at your finances, find out if you're mortgage provider offers breaks etc. It's not to say you'll need to do any of this but it's good to be proactive in these situations and focusing the mind on positive steps can be helpful in managing the totally normal anxiety.

Good luck.

AnxietyLevelMax · 14/01/2024 11:26

Oh so sorry to everyone who had to go through the similar even if it ended up being a good turn in life. I really like the company and people i work with and have flexibility and other benefits which makes life just easier sometimes and have all the childcare set up around my working hours. Really hope i wont be made redundant. I will try to spend time with family and have some peace and quiet time to not let my worries overtake the next few days

OP posts:
kikilaw · 14/01/2024 11:35

Merger. Haven't been able to tell you in advance due to confidentiality. Need to tell everyone together - I would say restructuring so prepare for redundancies.

Eleganz · 14/01/2024 11:36

Sadly have to agree it will be nothing good. Group meetings informed by a letter usually means job losses or some other significant change as the company have to demonstrate they have done stuff by the book. We had similar before I was made redundant I'm afraid - was a total shitshow.

kikilaw · 14/01/2024 11:37

Might be an mbo by current senior managment.

AnneValentine · 14/01/2024 11:38

VisionsOfSplendour · 14/01/2024 09:42

200 UK employees being made redundant in a profitabke business doesn't seem likely for a top 100 US owner. Any financial troubles would be public knowledge surely

Not if it’s nothing to do with financial difficulties.

Many large companies buy small ones with a deal to leave as is for x period and then they shut down and asset strip. It’s nothing to do with financial difficulties.

VisionsOfSplendour · 14/01/2024 11:49

AnneValentine · 14/01/2024 11:38

Not if it’s nothing to do with financial difficulties.

Many large companies buy small ones with a deal to leave as is for x period and then they shut down and asset strip. It’s nothing to do with financial difficulties.

I was specifically answering the poster who was sure it was financial difficulties

Obviously there are lots of other possibilities

maddiemookins16mum · 14/01/2024 11:50

It screams redundancies to me, the HR person moving closer to the office means lots of one to one meetings.

I say this with the very bitter voice of experience.

maddiemookins16mum · 14/01/2024 11:51

Wonderfulstuff · 14/01/2024 11:20

Whatever it is I think it's certain that changes are coming - even if they don't directly effect you. This is all out of your control and is currently unknown so it's totally normal to feel scared/anxious/panicked.

Whilst you can't personally change anything right now you can do some things to prepare for the worst which might help you feel little bit more in control... things I'd consider doing include brushing up my CV, start to look online for new roles, have a look at your finances, find out if you're mortgage provider offers breaks etc. It's not to say you'll need to do any of this but it's good to be proactive in these situations and focusing the mind on positive steps can be helpful in managing the totally normal anxiety.

Good luck.

This is a fabulous response.

ArnieLinson · 14/01/2024 11:52

maddiemookins16mum · 14/01/2024 11:50

It screams redundancies to me, the HR person moving closer to the office means lots of one to one meetings.

I say this with the very bitter voice of experience.

I assumed the same.

WithACatLikeTread · 14/01/2024 11:53

Wanna17 · 14/01/2024 09:24

How about wait until XXX date and find out 😂😂🤦‍♀️

Have some sympathy. She might be very worried about losing her job.

MadCatLady27 · 14/01/2024 12:03

I hope it's not but on previous experience I'd say restructure and redundancies for at least one site. Worked in a call centre and there were a few as contracts with clients were lost - they'd generally pull everyone potentially affected in to a meeting then have another one with those not affected to update them as to what's happening

They then do consultations with those affected to discuss options e.g relocation/redundancy/able to stay as are. Which may be why HR is actually coming into the office

First few I fought to stay, one I kept the same role as others took voluntary, another I kept same role but for a different team

Last time was during COVID, MD put at the end of his weekly update videos they were going to have to make some redundancies and HR would call those affected. Sure enough I got an email from them asking for my number. I had the consultation call out of interest to see if there would be any reassurance around job security. There wasn't so I told them there and then I wanted voluntary redundancy. Luckily found a new role during my notice period

They have to give you some time off for interviews during your notice period if they are making you redundant. If you want to stay, state your case as others may take voluntary to fill their number they need to do that to. Id probably spend this weekend just having a little nose through indeed etc. it may not be redundancy or anything bad but it may help knowing what else is out there just in case

luckmewish · 14/01/2024 12:03

These replies could give you false hope or make you worry unnecessarily.

You've had a list of possible reasons for the meeting. I'd take note of those but nothing else.

SqueakyDinosaur · 14/01/2024 12:09

One thing I'd say is that US companies frequently get employment law in other countries wrong, so once you understand what's going on, make sure you understand what your rights are and what your position is in UK law.

US employers still have to abide by UK laws when they operate in this country, and UK laws are way more stringent in this area.

Oh, and don't feel bounced into a quick decision either way. They have to give you time to think, if they are using restructuring or redundancy.

SoIdentifying · 14/01/2024 12:25

Are you working from home still?@AnxietyLevelMax