Wiv, free and three, have and of

[idontlikealdi]

Please help me cope. Dds are picking up language skills as expected from their peers. I can't cope with it. I'm ND if that makes the impact bigger. Not sure.

When they mispronounce I get so wound up, I do correct them which drives them and me mad.

For me it's basic understanding, do you have three things or free things, are you talking about our roof or Ruth, what is wiv?

Am I wrong to try and enforce it?

They're 12 for context, not young, this is a new thing

No you’re not unreasonable. Personally I find people who sound like that come across as less intelligent / poorly educated. Continue correcting them; one day they may want to enter into a professional career and how they present themselves will matter.

We’re fortunate enough to be given one of the world’s most difficult (and valuable) languages for ‘free’, and some of us can’t even master it as native speakers. There’s no excuse (disability aside, obvs), in my opinion. Just because you come from somewhere that speaks poorly* doesn’t mean you have to sound like it.

*I live in a deprived area and experience this with my 8 year old as well. It’s an ongoing lesson in pronunciation!

YANBU to correct them but YABU to get wound up and drive them mad about it.

My mum used to do this and all it made me do was mispronounce more, just to rebel.

If they're 12, they've probably learned the difference but this is how they're choosing to speak unfortunately.

I am a stickler for this too OP, but I try not to draw attention to it as such, I just do what SALT taught me with my son, which is to repeat back to them but the correct wording. Atm both my children have lost the ability to pronounce the Ts in their words so I just repeat back “yeah he’s liTTle isn’t he” for example. Inside I’m screaming but I try not to show it.

This. It just makes them (there's two of them hence the they!) sound a bit thick.

I grew up in London. Both parents were from other parts if Britain. They couldn't stand the London a accent or expressions - "he goes, I says, I turn round and says, lend it me, borrow it me, concerete,
assemberley, Engerland, etc.
They corrected me all the time . I'm glad they did .

I don’t know but I feel your pain, my DS is the same and pronounces his th as f or v depending. It’s called ‘th fronting’. I have tried to teach him how to say it properly, there are YouTube videos which are helpful about how to teach it. But it’s a losing battle, short of pulling him up for it every time which just annoys him and makes it into a big deal. I don’t know what the answer is. I just hope that as he gets older he starts to care a bit more and makes the effort to change the habit, he’s 11 now.

I cringe every time I remember mil (who is awesome) saying to them when they were younger 'you wanna go wee'. Urgh.

I correct too. Currently, 'like' seems to be every other word 🙄

I'm NOT ND and it annoys the crap out of me.

If you can't beat them, join them. Do it yourself, in exaggerated form, in front of their peers.
There's nothing quite so excruciating as an embarrassing parent.

Drives me nuts too!! One of my children likes to wind me up about it. So I have to just pretend I don’t care but I always correct him.

P.s. I'm now married to a Scots who can't bear that I"m unable to distinguish between draw and drawer and a million other words 🤣

Don't get me started on the fact one of the wantstoruneverywordtogethersoquicklyyouhavenoideawhatthefucktheyreonabout 😣

Im thinking old school elocution may be needed. I judge (possibly wrongly) people I interview who don't speak properly. It's not a good sound.

Oh please - people talk how the people around them do. Just because someone talks with an accent or pronounces things differently doesn’t make them uneducated or less intelligent 🙄

So much prejudice and classism on mumsnet.

It's not prejudice and classism when you can't comprehend the sentence.

The whole point of language is to make yourself understood. The more you limit your vocabulary , the more you limit your audience. It is nothing to do with snobbery.

It's not prejudice and classism it's the reality for a lot of workplaces. I work with a lot of overseas colleagues who have excellent English but there's no need for me to confuse them with "free" when I mean three.

I bet most of the time you can though, unless you're doing that fake, exaggerated "I'm sorry Olivia but what does one, two, free actually meeeean???"

I get it's annoying but if you pull them up too often, they'll end up not wanting to talk to you much, which could be a problem if they're in trouble or feeling down.

You definitely ANBU.

My DC are older so don't do this and I can pretty much decipher typo's/poor spelling on social media and don't want to be that grammar police person but when I read
"I've bin looking for"
Or
"Does EN1 have somethink"
my eyes roll quicker than the reels on a fruit machine.

Speaking as a hiring manager, it does stand out against candidates who are better spoken. You can’t professionally interact at a senior level if you talk like a chav. At the very least you need a ‘professional voice’ that you wheel out when needed. I say this as a born and bred Yorkshire lass who lives in a village where many residents still speak broad Yorkshire.

My ds has a friend who says things like "we was going..." rather than "we were going"

And also "give me them pens" instead of "give me those pens". He's started occasionally copying and I correct every single time. Including in front of the friend. Can't stand it 😆

But you can understand, it’s just not said in a way you would say it or like it to be said. In context you absolutely do understand what people are saying in most instances.

Not everyone has the same privileges in life and will speak how they have been raised to - I come from a very working class area where people speak similar to a way you have all outlined above, because everyone around them speaks that way. Quite a lot of people I know are very intelligent and are wonderful people, but you’d judge them too quickly because of a few words from them?

100% this.

I would be horrified.