Wiv, free and three, have and of

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Please help me cope. Dds are picking up language skills as expected from their peers. I can't cope with it. I'm ND if that makes the impact bigger. Not sure.

When they mispronounce I get so wound up, I do correct them which drives them and me mad.

For me it's basic understanding, do you have three things or free things, are you talking about our roof or Ruth, what is wiv?

Am I wrong to try and enforce it?

Yes, I would @ColleenDonaghy

I don't consider correct grammar to be "formal", just... correct. It's what I learnt and sounds good to my ear.

And I speak the way I speak, to everyone. Colleagues, acquaintances, family - my vocab might be different, my tones will be different, but my grammar will be the same and is generally correct.

I particularly hate “haitch” for “h” and correct my children every time.

I also can’t bear the current Octopus Energy radio ads: “you’ve been with us for FREE years” with the Catherine Tate like sweary Nan (and is three years really such an accomplishment?!)

Me too.

I suspect many posting on this thread about "th" don't pronounce the letter R. Slightly hypocritical.

I can't tell if they're saying drawer or draw. So uneducated.

What baffles me most about this thread is the posters blaming neurodiversity for their lack of tolerance of different ways of speaking. Surely if you’re ND you understand the problem with privileging one “right” way of doing things over all others?

I also think there’s a lot of faux-concern about literacy, which is a different issue. My boss has a proper saaaaaarf Laaaandan accent; she’s a highly-published professor and you only need to be in her company for two minutes to realise how smart she is. Anyone who’d judge her on her accent is ridiculous. On the other hand some of the dimmest people I’ve ever met speak perfect RP.

I say haitch at work. If I don't then nobody understands me on the phone so.. I changed how I said it
Like if I say "house number" apparently I say house weirdly so I now ask for first line of address
I do have a bad habit of saying haf past instead of half past but that's the accent I guess

Im thinking old school elocution may be needed. I judge (possibly wrongly) people I interview who don't speak properly. It's not a good sound

That's obnoxious and deeply unfair. If you think that people who don't speak properly should be judged then that says a lot about you.

I did used to correct my kids speech but wouldn't dream of discriminating between people because of how they speak.

We lived overseas a lot when my kids were little so the kids were using all sorts of words. I had to be careful not to correct their pals saying 'wardur' instead of 'water'. 🤦🏻‍♀️

INTERESTING. Going to turn this on OP, tbh. If you don’t like the regional accent or pronunciation in a local area, it’s up to you to move. Sorry. You’re fault.

I have one cockney parent and one Australian. As a small child, because of where we lived, I had an Essex accent and couldn’t pronounce ‘th’ properly. They moved the family to Buckinghamshire when I was about 5 and now I have a very RP accent, though quite happily can do the Oz, Cockney and Essex still 🤣

QED: OP’s fault.

HEEHEE.

I love regional accents and dialects. Long may they be kept alive.

If my kids did this, I would correct it. I don’t care how they speak to their friends, but it is much harder to write correctly. If you don’t speak in the same way.

The world still judges people on decent literacy. And unless my children had a disorder that stopped them from learning, I would strongly encourage them to speak and write using the correct grammar.

For many of us, ‘we was’ really grates on the ear, so it is difficult to focus on the rest of the conversation. I would not want my children to have that extra difficulty as an adult so I would try and correct it whilst they were younger and explain the rationale. Accents are a different issue in
my book.

Also problematic for protected characteristics, as it can exclude people with disabilities or other ethnicities.

It's th in certain words. Three. Thor. If I say three and free in my head, they sound the same. Of course I can put my tongue between my teeth, but it still doesn't make the correct sound.

Perhaps read around the subject more, if you wish to understand.

NC because I expect some nasty comments (given the classism in this thread).

I’m a professor at a Russell group university. I honestly can’t hear the difference between th/f or th/v. I fully appreciate that there is a difference, but I can’t hear it and therefore I can’t say it either.

I’ve been mildly embarrassed by this on rare occasions, and I suppose if my parents could have easily “fixed” it when I was a kid then I’d prefer that. But it really isn’t a huge deal. It hasn’t caused me any real issues and definitely hasn’t held me back in my life or career. 🤷🏻‍♀️