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My son (18) wants to be a sperm donor!

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Hedgehogscanclimbtrees · 12/01/2024 12:27

I have found out that my son has an appointment at a sperm donor clinic tomorrow! I tried to speak with him about it, but he just said that he's 18 now and he wants the money. I tried to explain the enormity of becoming a FATHER but he dismissed that and said it wasn't the same thing. I pointed out that, by law, children can contact their sperm donor fathers once they are 18, but he was unbothered. I feel he is doing this just because it's £35 for a wank, with no thought about potential consequenses & impact on his future life & future relationships.
If I were thinking about settling down or starting a family with a man, it would put me off to think that he had been that cavalier about his sperm in the past. I would also worry about multiple children turning up! AIBU???

OP posts:
booktokbear · 13/01/2024 07:15

Justinpassing · 12/01/2024 13:28

So someone turned up at your house looking for their biological father? (I totally believe you by the way. I know incredulous but I’m not, just checking I’ve understood correctly!)

I know people v close to me this has happened to. It took a year but we worked it out then contacted the father by email.

It definitely does happen.

booktokbear · 13/01/2024 07:15

Oh sorry - email was found through his work. You can find anything out these days.

RampantIvy · 13/01/2024 07:32

they check their health, virology, family history etc. They also have a psychologist speak with them prior to donation.

Do they check for mental health issues, neurodiversity etc as well?

Lookingfornewdirection · 13/01/2024 07:37

I agree that 18 is a bit young to make this decision but I still think OP and many posters are overreacting. He will NOT be a father. And he will have no obligations towards the potential children once they are adults. I don’t see why it would be so horrible to be contacted later, it’s not like he has to be part of their lives against his will. He might meet up once, he might just communicate via email. If they click they might have an actual friendship. So?

I don’t see an issue as a partner either. Why would it be so bad for me if my partner was contacted by the child later? And even if they end up meeting regularly? What would I or possible children I had with him lose in that scenario?

The money is crap btw. Certainly there are easier ways to make the same amount.

2024BigWhoop · 13/01/2024 07:52

ManateeFair · 12/01/2024 22:45

So what, though? It’s not like the quality of the sperm is affected by the motives of the donor. The benefit to the recipient is the same regardless, so who gives a shit if the donor just wanted £35?

I don’t care at all.

I said OP was being unreasonable as most guys probably do it because they want some extra money and if that’s their motivation then so what?

I was making the point to OP that her son’s reason to donate is probably no different to any other of the hundreds of sperm donors out there and to just stay out of it.

2024BigWhoop · 13/01/2024 07:55

WithACatLikeTread · 12/01/2024 17:11

The novelty might wear off after a while. 🤣

Does the fun of masturbating ever wear off? 😂

I’d love it if someone paid me £140 a week just to masturbate 😂 Mind you, that sounds a bit like it would make me a sex worker 😂

2024BigWhoop · 13/01/2024 07:57

Cattenberg · 12/01/2024 15:49

I think it’s £35 per clinic visit and they have to visit the clinic many times.

That said, one sample is divided into several “straws” and if buying from a UK sperm bank, you can expect to pay about £1,000-£2,000 per straw. So it might be the most valuable substance on earth.

And people say that colostrum is “liquid gold” 😂

I’m starting to think that sperm is now 😂

MySugarBabyLove · 13/01/2024 08:19

People are very naive re how easy it is to find someone.

My dad found out a few years ago that he has two half siblings, not through donation, but through the fact his dad remarried.

All we had was a name, but within half an hour I was able to find out who one of them was, where she worked, who her husband was and where they live, the name of their child, the name of the other sibling and the fact that she’d died, and when and how.

And even though her own social media is fairly locked down, all it took was to follow a post from her dh where she’d been tagged, and his profile was public,and the trail could be followed from there.

We didn’t pursue the relationship any further, well actually my dad contacted her and she was unaware that her dad had previously been married and that she had five other siblings and she wasn’t ready to face that so he didn’t pursue it any further. But had he wanted to, it would have been incredibly easy to go knocking on her door.

jackstini · 13/01/2024 10:33

closingdownsale · 12/01/2024 16:55

I knew someone who did this 3 years ago
They get updates whenever a child is born...he already has 14 children!

I wonder what the limit is now?

With the man I mentioned in a pp it was 20
So he knows he has 21 children - 1 he knows about and 20 he doesn't (who would all be over 18 now)

Dwappy · 13/01/2024 10:43

RampantIvy · 13/01/2024 07:32

they check their health, virology, family history etc. They also have a psychologist speak with them prior to donation.

Do they check for mental health issues, neurodiversity etc as well?

Well you have to have mandatory counselling/ therapy sessions. So I'd imagine that any glaringly obvious conditions would be picked up on. If someone is very mild or can hide it well over multiple appointments then they probably are still suitable as they are functioning fine as an adult.

RampantIvy · 13/01/2024 10:58

I was a bit worried that my comment might be taken the wrong way @Dwappy, so I hope it wasn't.

I was thinking about it from the perspective of the potential parents.

Chaffgoldffinch · 13/01/2024 19:22

TrashedSofa · 12/01/2024 17:39

Well, it affects both sexes. But men tend to die first, so it's women that are more likely to be dealing with the aftermath when a partner dies.

Which isn't to say I think the law necessarily will change either. It's just that all this is incredibly new for us. Commonplace home DNA testing is only what a couple of decades old tops? Around the same age as the internetisation of everything. We're very much at the start of this. And it's a huge change, really. For the rest of human history, it's been possible to be the biological parent of a child and be anonymous, if wished, and we don't know whether we've worked through all the potential implications of the change. So it's very hard to call, but if someone does donate sperm or eggs they're basically having a punt.

"For the rest of human history, it's been possible to be the biological <father> of a child and be anonymous"

Mothers considerably less anonymous

drspouse · 13/01/2024 20:24

Send him the donor conceived of Tiktok e.g. Laura High. Does he want to get into those murky waters?

OCDmama · 13/01/2024 20:50

If it makes you feel better, they don't allow too many successful conceptions from a donor. It won't be a job for life.

Cattenberg · 13/01/2024 20:58

It’s true that each donor can only be used to create up to ten “donor families” in the UK. However, some UK sperm banks have partnerships in other countries such as the US, so I don’t know if the sperm
from popular donors is ever exported once the ten family limit has been reached here. I wouldn’t put it past the sperm banks, frankly.

EncantoSpice · 13/01/2024 21:04

YABU, he’s not “becoming a father” he’s becoming a sperm donor. There is no responsibility. He has no legal obligations to any babies born using his sperm.

Cattenberg · 13/01/2024 21:12

ManateeFair · 12/01/2024 22:45

So what, though? It’s not like the quality of the sperm is affected by the motives of the donor. The benefit to the recipient is the same regardless, so who gives a shit if the donor just wanted £35?

I don’t begrudge sperm donors the money, but my concern is that a financial incentive could encourage a few potential donors to lie in order to be accepted.

A few years ago, there was a news story about a sperm donor in the US who fathered more than 30 children, but allegedly hadn’t disclosed his schizophrenia or his criminal record to the sperm bank.

TrashedSofa · 13/01/2024 21:32

Chaffgoldffinch · 13/01/2024 19:22

"For the rest of human history, it's been possible to be the biological <father> of a child and be anonymous"

Mothers considerably less anonymous

The only time when mothers can't be anonymous is the initial stage. Once the baby is born, that ends. Women can and have given up babies for adoption, or had them removed against their wishes, without there being any more way to trace them than the father. Women having babies adopted on the promise of anonymity is something that has happened well within living memory, in fact. It used to be quite common in Ireland with unmarried mothers, for example.

So as I said, for the rest of human history, it has been possible to be the biological parent of a child and be anonymous. Male or female. And now that's gone.

spookehtooth · 13/01/2024 23:10

@2024BigWhoop if masturbation is all there was to it, then the fun would probably not wear off. It's mostly all the other aspects to it that would drag it down. The administration side, in addition to the act itself. Everything I've ever done for fun has sooner or later had the life sucked out of it and made it a chore once its done for money :-s

drspouse · 15/01/2024 09:39

Why should anyone have the right to be a parent anonymously? This is a child we are talking about - who has the right to know their origins.
And yes, people do vanish from their child's life but that doesn't mean that doing this isn't breaching the child's rights. Lots of parents breach their child's rights in many ways.

Bibisitsnow · 15/01/2024 09:49

I tried to explain the enormity of becoming a FATHER but he dismissed that and said it wasn't the same thing.

How much “fathering” will he be doing? Do you think he’s going to apply for custody or something?’

he will have zero rights over any children conceived. Zero rights and zero responsibilities but you are right, in the U.K. the child/ren will have the right to know his full details.

Bibisitsnow · 15/01/2024 09:51

That being said, £35? Plus coming in for the blood tests etc for the sperm to ‘clear’ for STDs post donation. Is it really worth it, can he not get a job?

Bibisitsnow · 15/01/2024 09:53

‘If it makes you feel better, they don't allow too many successful conceptions from a donor. It won't be a job for life.’

this is also true - a lot of the sperm is going to be used at fertility clinics where there are issues around natural conception.

I think he will find it a lot more hassle going than he realises too.

EncantoSpice · 15/01/2024 11:13

I think it’s a really great thing he’s doing to help desperate parents-to-be realise their dream. Well done him!

No he’s not becoming a “father” but he will be helping other people become mothers/fathers.

My son is a DCC - obviously I don’t know the identity of the donor but thank you to everyone who has donated gametes, you are all miracle-makers 😊

MILTOBE · 15/01/2024 11:52

@EncantoSpice I love how you're assuming ethical reasons for him wanting to wank for money.