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Do I tell the Airbnb host?

133 replies

Henpartyfail · 12/01/2024 01:33

I’m organising a hen party and the brief for accommodation was difficult because there’s quite a few of us. I finally found a property and thought I had read through the description carefully and it didn’t say anything about no hen parties. So I’ve booked it and just happened to notice that it actually does say no hen or stag parties.
I don’t want to be dishonest to the host but I don’t want to lose this house, it will be impossible to find another one.
We’re a group of all ages including grandparents and children. Not your typical hen party and it won’t be anything near wild, I know we will treat the property with respect. AIBU not to say anything?

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mottytotty · 12/01/2024 11:52

AnxiousPangolin · 12/01/2024 11:41

I think attempting to differentiate between a ‘party’ and an ‘event’ and a ‘gathering’ is pure semantics. It amounts to the same thing which is a group of people in excess of the number the property hosts using it as a venue.

Personally, I would contact the host, explain and ask if they will allow it. Some places charge an additional deposit if you’re specifically booking it for ‘an event’ to try and cover damages or cleaning beyond standard.

As it happens, I’ve had people contact me to ask if they can have ‘an event’ and on a couple of occasions I’ve allowed the booking. Others I have refused because of the type of ‘event’ or the fact the guest was being shady about details.

But the t&cs aren't saying parties or events aren't allowed, it's saying hen parties and stag dos not allowed.

OP, are you even having a party? Or are you a 'party of 10' having a gathering?

tomatoontoast · 12/01/2024 11:55

We travelled a long distance to attend a hen party at an airbnb. We assumed the organiser had let the owner know.

We ended up being kicked out at half 12 at night. Driving home at that time was horrible. I'm still furious about it. Thank god I wasn't drinking.

Please let your guests know if you plan on doing this. At least then they can be aware the host might ask you all to leave.

Flossflower · 12/01/2024 11:57

As there are children there you are just having a family gathering and not a hen party in the usual sense. If you tell your host it is a hen party they will cancel the booking.

Quickredfox · 12/01/2024 12:11

It also depends whether you are having people not staying in the property come to the property to celebrate, and whether your plans inside the property include holiday type activities or hen party type activities.

Mirabai · 12/01/2024 12:16

Quickredfox · 12/01/2024 12:11

It also depends whether you are having people not staying in the property come to the property to celebrate, and whether your plans inside the property include holiday type activities or hen party type activities.

Exactly. Are they hosting an event/s for the booked guests? Additional externals? Will alcohol be involved?

If no to all of these then it’s just a holiday and you’re fine, any events & you need to notify the host.

BeckyBloomwood3 · 12/01/2024 12:17

What you're organising is categorically NOT a hen party OP. Dictionary definition:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hen-night

'Female friends'.

Not children, grandparents, dogs, whatnot.

'No parties' and 'no hen/stag' do's not the same thing. You need to confirm that parties are allowed. The hen bit is irrelevant this is just a family gathering.

hen night

1. a party for a woman who is going to get married, to which only her female…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hen-night

Mynewnameis · 12/01/2024 12:22

I'd ask the host. What if a guest says 'I'm at the hen party' to a neighbour or similar

TheWayOfTheWorld · 12/01/2024 13:49

Octonaut4Life · 12/01/2024 07:58

When booking my best friend's hen party the host said no stags/hens, I got in touch and explained we were all mid thirties professionals looking to do nice dinners and chill rather than anything else and the host was fine with it.

That's exactly what I did when organising something similar for a friend. It was a lovely weekend in a big house with pool!

Turfwars · 12/01/2024 14:24

Pretend you are part American and call it a bridal shower Grin

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/01/2024 16:16

If it includes grandparents and children, it’s hardly a typical hen party, is it? If any question arises, I’d just say it’s a family party.

HunterBidensBurnerPhone · 12/01/2024 19:23

What that clause really means is that they don't want a loads of Fiat 500 huns leaving fake tan smears on all the sheets and holding each other's extensions back while they thrown up their tenth pornstar martini over the decking.

If you're not planning on playing 'take a shot for every bloke you've slept with' while you're there, it won't be a problem.

laclochette · 12/01/2024 22:55

There's no legal definition of a hen party so just rename your event in your head as a friends and family gathering (and don't all turn up in tops saying "I'M ON A HEN DO") and bingo, no issues. Honestly it doesn't sound like you're the kind of party that hosts are worried about, so I don't think you'd have anything to feel bad about.

Henpartyfail · 13/01/2024 00:07

Thanks everyone for your helpful responses. I drafted a message to the host but when I read it back, I feel like it might make her suspicious of me. Just like some people on here didn’t believe I missed reading the rules properly. She might not believe me. For those who doubt I was genuine, it really was a mistake, one I feel completely stupid over.
I’ve read a lot of reviews on the property and I can see that many guests have done the same type of activities we’re planning, so it’s nothing out of the ordinary. I will have to rename as a little gathering. I did want to get some kind of T-shirts printed as a surprise for the bride to be but will definitely refrain from doing that! Thanks all.

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LumiB · 13/01/2024 00:28

End of the day its the hosts property and they are entitled to rent it out based on the terms they are comfortable with. Not sure why people can't just respect that and feel the need to just do whatever they like and let's not tell the host and do it anyway. 🙄

maddening · 13/01/2024 00:36

AnxiousPangolin · 12/01/2024 10:59

I manage a holiday rental and we don’t allow parties either. It’s not so much your kids and your gran, it’s the fact that with a larger number of people having a gathering, they’re generally less careful than someone on a break.

Stuff gets spilt and not wiped up, toilets end up a mess, kitchen stuff gets broken and in my experience, people just don’t bother to do even basic cleaning thinking that the host will have a cleaner coming in anyway.

I agree with other posters that the OP is being wide-eyed about ‘not noticing’ that the property doesn’t allow parties. Shame so many other posters seem to think it’s fine to be dishonest too.

If your property sleeps 10 and 10 people stay and have family evenings then I don't see the problem - the op is not inviting additional people by the sounds of it.

I is a family holiday to celebrate an upcoming wedding and it is not what is meant by hen and stag parties imo when venues and accommodation refer to them.

Henpartyfail · 13/01/2024 01:04

@maddening yes that’s true, no additional visitors other than the ones staying.

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Mirabai · 13/01/2024 14:30

What that clause really means is that they don't want a loads of Fiat 500 huns leaving fake tan smears on all the sheets and holding each other's extensions back while they thrown up their tenth pornstar martini over the decking.

😂

Unicorntastic · 13/01/2024 14:37

Unless you are having glitter everywhere and loud music I wouldn’t worry, I used to manage a large holiday house and they had a no hen party rule but as the manager I found they were less hassle than the large family groups as they were out and about mostly whereas the family groups (usually parents in their 30’s) left mess everywhere as they knew a cleaner was going in.

Mirabai · 13/01/2024 14:48

Unicorntastic · 13/01/2024 14:37

Unless you are having glitter everywhere and loud music I wouldn’t worry, I used to manage a large holiday house and they had a no hen party rule but as the manager I found they were less hassle than the large family groups as they were out and about mostly whereas the family groups (usually parents in their 30’s) left mess everywhere as they knew a cleaner was going in.

Then properties I manage are abroad and high end so we don’t get hen/stag parties per se but we do get single sex holidays. But the most recent creators of an unprecedented mess were a family party with grandparents and kids.

Equally I’ve had groups of retired professionals who drank more than you could conceive anyone could in a week and left all their bottles piled up for the house manager to deal with.

Vonesk · 13/01/2024 14:56

The thing about this kind of thing is ' damage limitation'. Has everyone involved got their own room /bed.
Just to be on the safe side you could limit ALCOHOL in the said property ( that usually limits chaos)
Just carry on, though if it all goes pear shaped and there is substantial damage ,it probably is not covered by owners insurance so you could be open to prosecution./ Litigation.
AND you all may have to LEAVE EARLIER than planned to avoid owner seeing you all.

Fionaville · 13/01/2024 15:15

I would let them know, but I'd open the conversation with the fact that kids and nannas will be present. It's more of a 'pre wedding get together for females' 😅

Cariolaxc · 13/01/2024 15:16

That sounds more like a family gathering than a hen party?

stayathomegardener · 13/01/2024 18:35

No additional attendees it's all good in my book.

Meeesh · 13/01/2024 18:36

People need to stop encouraging the op to lie. They are fully aware it is a hen party! Email the host and explain and see what they say! Meanwhile, start looking for alternative accommodation!

Cyclebabble · 13/01/2024 19:01

All in the branding. You are now having a family get together. Problem solved. So long as you do not get wrecked and trash the place then I think you are fine.