To vaccinate newborn or not

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I know this is a very sensitive subject, but i’m asking please for FACTS only - I don’t want answers like ‘because the NHS recommends you to vaccinate your baby etc’

Id like to point out i’m not ‘anti vax’ as such, but covid really opened my eyes to researching vaccines etc i’ve done my own research on whether i should be vaccinating my newborn but it’s hard to find unbiased facts.

What I don’t like, is the pressure that is put on us to do as we’re told with our babies. I don’t like the constant reminders, the phone calls and the pressure to vaccinate - it all feels like a box ticking exercise not because the NHS are actually worried about my baby.

Please be kind, I really am confused about this and would love some different perspectives

My friend’s baby got measles and nearly died, ended up on a drip in hospital for several days. She got it 2 weeks before her measles vaccs were due. The doctors said it’s due to anti vaxxers ruining it for everyone else! Please get your baby vaccinated don’t be selfish

When you say " do e my research"........have you read source peer reviewed papers in scientific journals.

Or have you read a lot of shite on social media?

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also, well done @Worrywort98 for not catching a communicable disease and not dying 👏👏👏👏

If you are even thinking of not vaccinating your baby you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Vaccines save lifes....growing up one family in next street was anti vaccination and sadly their daughter died of measles...their son was quickly vaccinated after that. Son was in my sisters school year. His sister died aged 2. Very sad. That childhood memory stuck with me so dd is fully vaccinated.

My baby wasn't mobile or verbal yet when they had their jabs. How old was this child? Are you sure this wasn't a condition they already had? Which vaccine caused it?

Most of the diseases we're vaccinated against are ones where we don't build up immunity, they tend to cause death or long term disability. You haven't caught those things because everyone else has had the jab to give herd immunity. If most people can't catch it they're unlikely to pass it on to the vulnerable who can't have vaccines. The more people you encourage to not have vaccines, the more dangerous you make it for those that are unable to be vaccinated.

This keeps coming up and it is usually a new mother who dearly loves her baby and struggles with the idea that something might be done to them that they worry might be a risk - the fact that the mother is having to make that choice can feel hard. "Acts of God" or exposure to general "dangers" can be coped with - making a decision is in a different category.

It has all already been said above: vaccines save lives; they are one of the biggest public health successes ever (second only to clean water); children died of infectious diseases in their hundreds of thousands before vaccines.

Choose health for your child.

I chose not to vaccinate as my first was born in the midst of the MMR controversy - I was foolish enough to do the same with the whooping cough vaccine at a similar time. Biggest mistake of my life. DD caught whooping cough at age 4 and has never fully recovered - she is now an adult with a family of her own and still has respiratory problems.

For over a year after the illness she could not walk at any speed because she would cough up thick phlegm; during the active phase, which lasted months, she could barely get out of bed, was coughing up thick sputum like plasticine every few minutes - she was a pitiful sight. And I had to live with the knowledge that I had inflicted this on her.

Do not inflict these things on your new baby.

Every tick in a box is a life saved

many schools will not take unvaccinated children for the heath of all ,
some may be vulnerable

the nhs is made up of mums who vaccinate
the person who sent you that reminder had their child vaccinated

Go into any graveyard with old graves in it. I can’t do it anymore as it makes me so sad. Many many family graves with multiple dead infants and children, often groups in the same year.
it’s normal to feel that you want to get everything right with your baby but please please understand that vaccination has saved millions of families the heartbreak of infant and child loss .

All I can tell you is that my Grandmother would have loved to have been in your position, with the chance to vaccinate her children.
RIP Eddie aged 6. Died of measles.

Lmfao please don’t use the Covid vaccine as proof for why vaccinations work.

Do NOT be misled by online articles about what they advise in other countries. The BCG is not currently deemed necessary as a universal vaccine in the UK. However, in our area of London there was an outbreak of TB, and DC was offered it in their first year. So the NHS is definitely taking an evidence-based approach to what is appropriate, locally, and advising accordingly.
The health service is on its knees from lack of funding. What possible benefit could it be for them to push unnecessary vaccines onto people? They push them because it's necessary, and it saves lives.
This is not your mum nagging you to tidy your room, this is a well researched public health programme that reminds parents who have a million other distractions that there's something really simple and free that they can do protect their children.

Op if you're worried about this genuinely then you need to make appointments with your hv and gp to discuss your concerns and get factual information. On here or anywhere else on the Internet is not the place to get good solid information.

I understand being concerned and wanting the best for your baby, but the research is very very clear on this. The infant mortality rate is lower because we have vaccines.

I suggest you have a wander round some graveyard with plenty of 19thC graves, and see how many of the stones list 3 or even more children from the same family, all dead within a few weeks, from same epidemic for which there is now a vaccine.

As for new babies, my 2nd was born in Abu Dhabi, where newborns were routinely vaccinated against TB very soon after birth, and (long before it was standard in the U.K.) given the MMR vaccine at 12 months.

A neighbours child caught measles when she was four and ended up brain damaged, her mental age is still that of a four year old and she's in her 50s now. Look up Polio wards and artificial lungs. When I was a student nurse 30 plus years ago a dad caught polio from changing his child's nappy after the child had just been vaccinated. The dad obviously hadn't been vaccinated when he was a child. He ended up partially paralysed.

It's not a tick box exercise. Vaccines save lives. Your baby's life could be saved. And the herd is protected.

My friend's baby got measles before he was old enough to have the vaccine and I've never seen such a poorly little one. He was lucky to survive and not be blind.

Diseases are never iradicated we just keep them at the door with vaccines.

Please vaccinate.

This thread is over a year old and OP eventually vaccinated her child.

Hello OP,

Vaccines have been around for a long time now. Fair enough to be wary of a recent vaccine, if it's only been out for months or years. There have been cases of medication, not just vaccines, that showed that mistakes can be made (I'm thinking of thalidomide for instance).

But vaccines that have been around for decades are safe. We would know if they weren't. I vaccinated my children.

I highly suggest you do some research into how your immune system works, how vaccines work with your immune system, and how immune systems in newborns work.

Your newborn will have millions of antibodies, all gotten from you. Their body will learn from those to make their own as they get older. One of the reasons vaccines are given to newborns isn’t necessarily the danger of viruses (although there are seriously dangerous viruses!) but their immune system is so open to learning how to deal with those viruses! As they get older the immune system becomes less learned based and more reactionary.

YABtotallyU. The NHS recommends vaccines and sends reminders because they are not only concerned about your child's health, but also about everyone else. You can do all the 'research' you want (but really, looking at YouTube videos, blogs etc doesn't count) but you only have to talk to someone who lived when polio was rife, or had TB, or got terrible consequences from mumps or rubella, to know that vaccines save lives. Just get it done for your child's sake, and for everyone else's.

By the same means people's lives (arguably many more - I'm not pretending to know) were saved by the covid vaccine.
I appreciate you're a new parent, and seemingly quite nervous, but I think it's actually rather selfish not to vaccinate your child. Other people are immunosuppressed/vulnerable so people get vaccinated/have their child vaccinated not just for their own/ their child's protection but for the greater good.

Vaccines save lives

Failure to vaccinate puts your child at risk for the rest of their life.

That's terribly sad. I'm sorry. But it's also an excellent example of why vaccines work. Diseases have largely been eradicated.