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Colleague said something was a bit Irish

358 replies

0scon · 09/01/2024 20:43

Something that hadn't been planned properly, she said it was a bit Irish and laughed.
Is that not quite racist? Or am I being too woke?

OP posts:
NoMoreBeers · 09/01/2024 23:11

TeaKitten · 09/01/2024 23:05

Why is being ‘a bit Irish’ worse than being ‘very Irish’. Your logic is flawed in that comment.

No, one just references customs that are common. The other is shorthand for something that is badly done, poorly planned or illogical. Very different.

Frangipanyoul8r · 09/01/2024 23:11

It doesn’t really matter what people’s families say. This is a work context. I wouldn’t repeat half the things my family say in a work context. She shouldn’t have said it.

blackpanth · 09/01/2024 23:12

@OchonAgusOchonOh if I was Irish i wouldn't lose any sleep over it. There's worse things to be offended by

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:12

Some folk in the village pub call my lovely Irish husband Paddy. He is not ever upset by it. I know shocking right? Shock

BassoContinuo · 09/01/2024 23:12

blackpanth · 09/01/2024 23:11

Paddy is in the dictionary. The other two arent. Says a lot really. I don't say paddy to be offensive. I say it to my son when he's having a tantrum. I don't have anything against the Irish and honestly never crossed my mind they'd find it offensive. As everyone I know says it. I say it lovingly to my son.

The n word is in the dictionary as well - I assume you’re not arguing that should be used?

CluelessPepperoni · 09/01/2024 23:12

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:09

Lighten up @CluelessPepperoni

I should, shouldn't I. Us Irish are great craic after all, sure it's just hilarious to call us thick, repeatedly.

Lala727 · 09/01/2024 23:12

blackpanth · 09/01/2024 23:11

Paddy is in the dictionary. The other two arent. Says a lot really. I don't say paddy to be offensive. I say it to my son when he's having a tantrum. I don't have anything against the Irish and honestly never crossed my mind they'd find it offensive. As everyone I know says it. I say it lovingly to my son.

Lovingly when he's having a tantrum. Uhuh. Ok. You're definitely just winding people up deliberately misunderstanding

justasking111 · 09/01/2024 23:13

Well we've Paddy,s in our family it's a lovely name.

I think this threads a bit Irish 🤭🤭

TeaKitten · 09/01/2024 23:13

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:12

Some folk in the village pub call my lovely Irish husband Paddy. He is not ever upset by it. I know shocking right? Shock

It’s not shocking but why can’t they just call him by his name?

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:14

justasking111 · 09/01/2024 23:13

Well we've Paddy,s in our family it's a lovely name.

I think this threads a bit Irish 🤭🤭

Behave! 😆

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:14

TeaKitten · 09/01/2024 23:13

It’s not shocking but why can’t they just call him by his name?

Who cares?

My Irish husband doesn't. As I said, people being offended on behalf of others is tedious.

VampireWeekday · 09/01/2024 23:14

(Massively outing but) I have an irish parent and a child named Patrick who we sometimes call Paddy, and I STILL never realised that "having a paddie" was derogatory towards the Irish. Now that I know I would consider it offensive from people who knew what it meant. What your colleague said was even worse.

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:16

VampireWeekday · 09/01/2024 23:14

(Massively outing but) I have an irish parent and a child named Patrick who we sometimes call Paddy, and I STILL never realised that "having a paddie" was derogatory towards the Irish. Now that I know I would consider it offensive from people who knew what it meant. What your colleague said was even worse.

It's almost exclusively NON-Irish people who are offended by all this. Funny that isn't it? Wink

Dazedandcovidconfused · 09/01/2024 23:17

That ‘joke’ is based on a historic stereotype, going back hundreds of years, that the Irish were imbeciles and savages, who thus benefitted from civilising colonisation by the British, and were responsible for their own starvation in the famine. All those anti Irish jokes are hugely offensive. And I’m Irish!!!

Lala727 · 09/01/2024 23:17

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:16

It's almost exclusively NON-Irish people who are offended by all this. Funny that isn't it? Wink

It's really not though....

justasking111 · 09/01/2024 23:18

Married to a Welshmen I've heard all the jokes here. Son lived abroad for a time, when he said he was Welsh, the sheep joke was top of the list.

There's something wrong with the English humour wise these days to be sure

TeaKitten · 09/01/2024 23:18

VampireWeekday · 09/01/2024 23:14

(Massively outing but) I have an irish parent and a child named Patrick who we sometimes call Paddy, and I STILL never realised that "having a paddie" was derogatory towards the Irish. Now that I know I would consider it offensive from people who knew what it meant. What your colleague said was even worse.

So now you’re just going to be offended on principle? How will you no if they no it’s offensive?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 09/01/2024 23:19

blackpanth · 09/01/2024 23:12

@OchonAgusOchonOh if I was Irish i wouldn't lose any sleep over it. There's worse things to be offended by

You would have no issue being stereotyped as stupid? Or constantly denigrated by people from a country that oppressed and exploited your country for hundreds of years?

You're not Irish so it's not up to you to tell Irish people that they are not entitled to be fed up of the casual xenophobia from many British people.

alliancedublais · 09/01/2024 23:19

Lovingitallnow · 09/01/2024 21:15

It's definitely said in Ireland but it's one of those things you can say if you're Irish and not otherwise. I've only ever heard of having a paddy on here and never in Ireland. Although if you asked her why is she saying it and are Irish people bad planners and she mentioned The National Children's Hospital then just stop talking she's won.

Or metrolink 😂

CluelessPepperoni · 09/01/2024 23:19

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:16

It's almost exclusively NON-Irish people who are offended by all this. Funny that isn't it? Wink

Love how you have an Irish husband and now think you are a spokesperson for Irish people. Is your husband too thick to speak for himself and needs you to do it for him?

TeaKitten · 09/01/2024 23:19

justasking111 · 09/01/2024 23:18

Married to a Welshmen I've heard all the jokes here. Son lived abroad for a time, when he said he was Welsh, the sheep joke was top of the list.

There's something wrong with the English humour wise these days to be sure

It’s not just English people that make this joke. The Welsh make it themselves too!

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:20

justasking111 · 09/01/2024 23:18

Married to a Welshmen I've heard all the jokes here. Son lived abroad for a time, when he said he was Welsh, the sheep joke was top of the list.

There's something wrong with the English humour wise these days to be sure

Yep this. ^ Some people just love to be offended. particularly on behalf of others! They make a career out of it. They write lots of complaint letters/emails/messages, blow a gasket, and break their pearls as they're clutching them so hard. Grin

Shouldbedoing · 09/01/2024 23:20

She's probably never thought it through

Lala727 · 09/01/2024 23:20

OchonAgusOchonOh · 09/01/2024 23:19

You would have no issue being stereotyped as stupid? Or constantly denigrated by people from a country that oppressed and exploited your country for hundreds of years?

You're not Irish so it's not up to you to tell Irish people that they are not entitled to be fed up of the casual xenophobia from many British people.

That first line.... I don't think they have an issue with it, no 😆

I meant no offense, so it's fine, with their rules 😉

OchonAgusOchonOh · 09/01/2024 23:21

SheFliesLikeABirdInTheSky · 09/01/2024 23:16

It's almost exclusively NON-Irish people who are offended by all this. Funny that isn't it? Wink

You've missed all the posts from the Irish people saying they find it offensive.