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Colleague said something was a bit Irish

358 replies

0scon · 09/01/2024 20:43

Something that hadn't been planned properly, she said it was a bit Irish and laughed.
Is that not quite racist? Or am I being too woke?

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WeeJimmycranky · 09/01/2024 20:44

Yep not on these days and I can’t believe we ever thought it was ok.

AlphaBravoCharlie1 · 09/01/2024 20:45

Having a paddy they also say… yes it is racist.

GoodTimes10 · 09/01/2024 20:45

I wouldn’t say it myself but I wouldn’t get too het up about it if someone else said it.

Dacadactyl · 09/01/2024 20:45

I think you're a bit woke tbh. I do think it reflects badly on your colleague however I couldn't get worked up about it.

Everyone knows Irish people are the best.

adriftinadenofvipers · 09/01/2024 20:46

For feck's sake!!!

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/01/2024 20:46

Not strictly racism, but certainly xenophobia and unacceptable.

McMuffins · 09/01/2024 20:47

How can it be racism if Irish isn’t a race?

VickyEadieofThigh · 09/01/2024 20:47

It was racist back in the 70s. 80s, 90s and 2000s. I don't know why some are suggesting it isn't now.

Because it IS.

Joolsin · 09/01/2024 20:47

Unacceptable. I've never heard anyone use that phrase and I wouldn't be happy if I did.

Agecanonix · 09/01/2024 20:48

I think it's rude and ignorant.

I wouldn't say something is a bit British: say, for example, shooting yourself in the foot.

No matter how accurate.

Silverbirchtwo · 09/01/2024 20:48

Means it's fantastic! The Irish always are. Is that bad?

MissTrip82 · 09/01/2024 20:49

It’s xenophobic stereotyping. Not acceptable.

The only people who think that ‘too woke’ is a phrase are actual card carrying arseholes. Notice who uses phrases like that. You’ll see
they have much in common, none of
it good. Misogyny, homophobia, racism etc.

Singleandproud · 09/01/2024 20:49

Does she have Irish heritage? in my family that would be normal to say and my Irish grandparents would use terms like that all the time.

NoisyDachshunddd · 09/01/2024 20:49

Mmm, not great… I couldn’t feel really outraged about this despite being of Irish heritage but I’d raise an eyebrow and I’d also think this person was probably not a cast iron promotion prospect.

TeaKitten · 09/01/2024 20:50

I wouldn’t have said it was racist, but I’ve never heard this phrase before so I totally accept other peoples opinions that it is. I also never new that having a paddy was an Irish reference, I don’t say it but il make sure I don’t now.

Namechangedforobvsreasons · 09/01/2024 20:50

McMuffins · 09/01/2024 20:47

How can it be racism if Irish isn’t a race?

It's an ethnicity, and if you don't think you can be racist towards an ethnicity, tell that to the Jews and see how you get on.

FUPAgirl · 09/01/2024 20:50

I'm Irish and I find that offensive to be honest.

StephanieSuperpowers · 09/01/2024 20:51

Singleandproud · 09/01/2024 20:49

Does she have Irish heritage? in my family that would be normal to say and my Irish grandparents would use terms like that all the time.

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Do they? Do they talk about having a paddy as well?

FaiIureToLunch · 09/01/2024 20:51

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DramaAlpaca · 09/01/2024 20:51

That's not on. I hope you challenged it, OP.

NewYearNewPyjamas · 09/01/2024 20:51

Never heard that saying but certainly sounds othering and one I would politely question.

I have never related the saying having a paddy to mean anything Irish. Every day is a school day! I don't know what I thought it meant, and I'm still not really sure what it means but very interesting nonetheless.

sprigatito · 09/01/2024 20:51

I'd have been pissed off. There's a legitimate debate about whether it constitutes racism or not, but it's really fucking offensive. I don't think people who say "it's just a laugh" about anti-Irish slurs can be very well educated about Irish history with the British; I can't see how anyone even moderately well informed could fail to see how pernicious it is.

QueenOfHiraeth · 09/01/2024 20:52

It's far from ideal but equally not ideal to be bothered by it

0scon · 09/01/2024 20:52

She doesn't have Irish heritage as far as I know. She does refer to people as being a 'bit old school' when they are racist or sexist as if it's not their fault but I'd never heard her say anything like that before. Just a bit disappointed that people might still say stuff like that really.
I won't lose any sleep!

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FaiIureToLunch · 09/01/2024 20:52

Singleandproud · 09/01/2024 20:49

Does she have Irish heritage? in my family that would be normal to say and my Irish grandparents would use terms like that all the time.

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Well, like my parents , they will have been primed to join in with the nonsense, that’s why. Years of being denigrated will do that for you.

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