Sacked for using 'N' word

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I don't know how to copy link sorry but has anyone been following the story of the Lloyd's bank manager who was sacked for asking a relevant question in a so called anti racism training session by his employers but in his question he used the full 'N' word.
His question I believe was how would he be expected to deal with black employees or customers speaking to each other using that word.
The trainer was so offended by the word, she had to take 5 days off work. However, he got sacked.
He has since been awarded £500,00 but no apology from Lloyd's and no job back.
As far as we know, the ridiculous incompetent trainer is still employed.

I am close to this story but afraid to say how.
But will say that I'm losing sleep and furious more and more at this bank.

Oh come on, in this context, completely fine. Even the most offended should be able to see this.

@Theunamedcat. Really good point. I would like to know the answer as I am sure the people that work in that bank would too. Maybe it would have been better handled in a more sensitive way from the bank and lessons need to be learned as its embarrassing for the bank to have this sort of publicity

I think judgement should be reserved on the trainer, they may have been black themselves and subjected to all sorts of other racism within the session which is why they took time off (just read some of Nova Reid’s accounts of training to see how pernicious the racism in edi training can be).

However I agree with both that there is never any need for a white person to use the word, but also that given the context, it wouldn’t strike me as gross misconduct either. A clear warning would have saved Lloyds an awful lot of time and money.

The trainer is a melt. The employee is an idiot. Safe space or not, did he really have to say it?

I don’t have a Torygraph subscription but the headline “White middle-aged men are ‘bottom of everything’ says bank worker sacked over N word” doesn’t sound promising 🙄🙄🙄

At work: See all - Hear all - say Fuck all. Go home .

Yes he was dyslexic , plus he had tried to ask the question without using the word . He had an unblemished record and it was in a training session . Seems completely out of proportion.

I think it goes to show that people are extremely offended by the word and for very good reason. It's offensive in its connotations and history and what it meant throughout history. It can't be just erased. We have to be sensitive about it. Really we do.

You said "I am close to this story but afraid to say how" but you have only just heard about it? Can you explain what you mean by "close to this story"?

It was a strange choice for a white man to use it with presumably a black trainer?

Having said that I do suspect the guy is a total nob.
a) because anyone with an ounce of common sense would have not used the word and said 'n word' in that situation.
b) anyone who uses the 'woe is me I'm a middle aged white male and being discriminated against' argument generally is.

It was apparently disability discrimination - he blamed his dyslexia for ‘inadvertently’ using the word in full.

He told The Telegraph: 'I often wonder if I wasn't a white middle-aged male would I have had to go through everything I went through. There is no way of telling. You are bottom of everything.'

What a f c*

Honest thoughts? He probably didn’t need to say the full word but seriously, a trainer delivering a course on racism to be so traumatised upon hearing it that they had to take a week of work is just insane. I’d say they were both unsuitable for the role they were employed in

I don't know the case but I can assure you noone has ever been awarded half a million quid for wrongful dismissal. Certainly not a bank branch employee. And that claim would have to go to county court anyway, not the tribunal .

Also, a separate point but in my view no-one should be using the N word. The end.

He was awarded £500,000. That's a massive payout from a bank!

If you read the story he only used the term when the trainer claimed not to understand his original question (which did not use the term). And then he immediately apologised. So it doesn't sound like he was looking for an excuse to say it. If he was he would have included it in his original question.

If she's that offended by that kind of language, maybe anti-racism training isn't the job for her. Those types of words must come up in the course of her job.

It’s pretty hefty

Gosh I could hear the tiny violins playing in my head as I read this 😂

I agree that nobody should be using the N word. It is extremely offensive.

This reminds me of the story about the people who gained all that publicity for displaying a certain type of doll in their window. I don't know why, but it does. It's different, obviously but I don't like the idea that racism is on the increase in the uk. We don't want to become like America. Let's remember that.

I have dyslexic kids, and one with tourettes, they would never inadvertently blurt out any word that wasn't already comfortably in their vocabulary.

This bloke sounds like a total bell end, he was comfortable using the word, then cried discrimination when he said it in the wrong setting, and now is whinging that the poor middle age white men are the bottom of the pile. He sounds desperate to be oppressed.

It wasn’t until 1968 that it was made illegal in the mainland U.K. to refuse housing, employment, or public services to a person on the grounds of colour, race, ethnic or national origins. Thankfully most of us have moved on.

@StopTheBusINeedAWeeWeeAWeeWeeBagOChips I'm inclined to agree with you. And he got a huge payout as well.