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Drinking wine each evening

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Mamabear2424 · 04/01/2024 21:30

Is it ok to drink wine every eve?? I have a glass , sometimes 2 every evening and I love it, it makes me happy. Dh says mental health more important so if it makes me happy I should just do it. I am a healthy 40 something with a professional career. I just love wine.

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biscuitnut · 05/01/2024 18:02

I always think the litmus test with alcohol is, do you want it or do you have to have it? If a doctor told you to stop drinking for 6 weeks could you? It doesn’t sound to me like op as a problem. She has not increased her drinking and is not binge drinking. Ultimately we all know ourselves if we have an issue, the key is to be brutally honest with yourself. My mum used to swear blind she had one small whiskey a night when in reality she actually had about the equivalent of 6 pub measures of whiskey.

CustardySergeant · 05/01/2024 18:03

Vettrianofan · 05/01/2024 07:24

In my 40s and just can't be bothered with alcohol especially as I'm up 6am every day. Just isn't worth it. I had one small glass of Shrubbery with New Year's Day steak pie but that was enough. No idea how people do it daily tbh, plus the cost alone would put me off!

What is this "Shrubbery" you drink? 😕

Delatron · 05/01/2024 18:06

DonnaBanana · 05/01/2024 17:59

I think we only have different recommendations for men and women here because of the different average size between the two. Men and women in Spain are all more slim and alike so have similar tolerance.

No it’s the other way round. Men and women have the same recommendations here (used to be 21 units now 14 for men same as women). The chief medical officer changed it a few years ago - haven’t seen the scientific reason for doing so. Spain men can drink more - 35 units.

MrsRachelDanvers · 05/01/2024 18:08

Mamabear2424 · 05/01/2024 16:35

Sigh, i have said many times i posted as it was niggling me, i have also said due to discussing this i will have 2 free days. The point is people make out they have perfect lives and 100% healthy and do all the right things, which is so untrue.

Also agree with a poster saying 14 units is just an 'arbitary made up number ' plucked out , i dont think there is any medical evidence.

I may as well smoke some weed then or shoot up heroin....if alcohol is the worst and weed right at the end of the list, gosh we live in a messed up country , one is bad yet sold everywhere, one illegal yet ok!

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There’s plenty of medical evidence on the effects of alcohol. People on here seem to be stating things they read years ago as if it never changes due to more recent evidence. You asked, we told you that a weekly habit of 25+ units may be harmful. Now you’re saying you may as well use heroin? Well if you have a nightly long term habit of heroin use, it won’t end well.
it’s good you’re cutting back as like I said, the long term effects of steady drinking show up in the poor health outcomes of older adults. Look at epidemiological studies-not the randoms talking about their nan who lived to 95. Hopefully, we would all be that nan, but realistically, to assume that would be foolish. Cheers!

GasPanic · 05/01/2024 18:08

Delatron · 05/01/2024 16:03

The 14 units is an arbitrary made up number. See the discrepancy between countries…

This.

It's because the government(s) has(ve) worked out what it thinks should be an acceptable risk, then come up with a consumption consistent with that.

As someone else has said, it is a sliding scale, not a cliff edge. The risk increases as consumption increases. the only way to get zero risk is to have zero consumption.

A more interesting question is, how many people actually know what the "acceptable consumption in units" actually relates to in terms of risk ?

My guess is very few.

What stuff like this does is discourage people to actually think about what they are doing. Which is the exact opposite of what people need to do.

Genevieve29 · 05/01/2024 18:13

We too have wine every evening with our meal. We are now well into our 70s and fit and healthy. You do you.

SacreBleugh · 05/01/2024 18:20

I drink about the same. I never ever exceed it even if it's a wedding or Christmas. I have the odd night off if I have to drive somewhere. I'm 60 and in excellent health and have been doing this for years. I haven't been drunk or had a hangover in 25 years.

Delatron · 05/01/2024 18:25

Have you watched the ‘Blue Zones’ documentary on Netflix? I thought it would be very anti wine/alcohol in terms of longevity. Obviously loads of factors come in to play. But there was a definite consensus that in many of the ‘blue zones’ they were having a socia few glasses of wine quite a few times a week. Especially in the Greek zone. This was in a sociable setting which arguably contributes to the longevity. (The socialising).

Sooo is it more healthy to be a teetotal at home alone with no social connections. Or enjoy wine sociably a few times a week with friends? I know you can socialise without wine but still..

My argument is it’s very nuanced. I think we are going down the ‘all
alcohol is bad even a few glasses in a social setting’ route. When the evidence to that differs.

Mamabear2424 · 05/01/2024 18:40

So if i move to Spain I am under the recommended limit, bizarre as we are all humans !

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ekeeling24 · 05/01/2024 18:44

I have a glass the odd night it's relaxes me after entertaining my 3 month old daughter

Nttttt · 05/01/2024 18:45

gamerchick · 04/01/2024 21:45

Isnt there only like 2 1/2 glasses or something in a bottle anyway? How big are your glasses? Surely you know how many bottles you buy a week?

Drinking every night has a negative effect on your body, your sleep patterns. You just don't realise because it's your normal way of feeling.

But it's your liver. Do what you want to it if it makes you happy.

Unsure if anyone else has said this but WHAT?!? 2 1/2 glasses per bottle? 😂

A bottle is 750ml and a small wine serve is 125ml according to weights and measures (what you would be served in a restaurant) so you get 6 glasses per bottle.

LapinR0se · 05/01/2024 18:48

Yes one bottle = 6 glasses. This is standard

Mamabear2424 · 05/01/2024 18:49

GasPanic · 05/01/2024 18:23

Hang on, so we are 111g per week, Denmark 168g per week, and they all are lovely happy people who dont look like alcoholics !! lol lol

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NewYear24 · 05/01/2024 18:50

OP if you happy with your drinking why are you asking?

SophieJo · 05/01/2024 18:51

I think it’s fine.

Mamabear2424 · 05/01/2024 18:53

NewYear24 · 05/01/2024 18:50

OP if you happy with your drinking why are you asking?

I was having a niggle so asked and i dont think i should have wine every eve so wanted to see the general consensus. I am going to miss 2 days a week and thank this thread for making me think wider. I would never do dry January as dont agree with that, but i will take something from this, and miss 2 days out , and my plan is to rise that to 3, so i am thankful for the insights this has given me. (off to smoke some weed now)

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Snoopsteandcooper · 05/01/2024 18:57

You'd be healthier making edibles...

BrownTableMat · 05/01/2024 18:58

What bit of, the medical consensus (as set out by the World Health Organisation among others) is that there is NO safe level of alcohol, is hard to understand? Or that different governments have taken different approaches to harm reduction in suggesting an upper limit to people who feel they must drink something?

I’m no puritan - I drink sometimes and even occasionally go over the 14 units/week or have a binge (more than 4 units at once). I’m also slightly overweight, eat chocolate and don’t exercise enough. But I don’t try to kid myself any of this is healthy or that the doctors don’t know what they’re talking about when they advise me about them.

gamerchick · 05/01/2024 19:01

BillieJ · 05/01/2024 17:30

Backup thread, someone mentioned the size of wine glasses, and that reminded me that my glass a night is in a small glass - mine also came from a charity shop. I get 5-6 glasses out of a bottle.

Day 5 of Dry January, and I've not noticed any difference in the way I feel or how I'm sleeping. In the evenings, I do think, ooh a glass of wine would be nice, so it's definitely a habit. But I'm not bothered that I can't have one.

Do I feel that I am poisoning myself? No. Every now and again, I'll catch sight of something telling me that I'm killing myself drinking coffee, or about the toxins in vegetables, dairy produce or tap water. I know that pollution, stress and lack of exercise are bad for me, but that's my life sometimes. I do feel overweight, but my BMI is in the normal range, I don't eat meat, I don't smoke and I'm rarely ill. I'll take my chances with a glass of wine every evening (from Feb), so long as I can get to and keep to my target weight.

You probably won't notice the effects until you start drinking again. You'll forget pretty quick once you start but you will note the changes in how your body feels.

Vettrianofan · 05/01/2024 19:06

CustardySergeant · 05/01/2024 18:03

What is this "Shrubbery" you drink? 😕

Cairn O Mohr Shrubbery wine.

BrownTableMat · 05/01/2024 19:06

Thinking about it, I’m just old enough (sigh) to remember when smokers used to use a similar set of denial tactics, including the cliched “my aunt smoked sixty a day and lived to 103”, “doctors don’t know what they’re talking about”, “it helps relax me and would be bad for my mental health to stop”, “it’s sociable and I like to smoke with my mates when we go to the pub”…. But you don’t hear those any more, thank goodness.

I wonder if the millennials and Gen Zs, which have a far lower rate of drinking than us old Gen Xs and above, will eventually cause a similar change in social mores, so that excuses for drinking will come to be seen as obviously fallacious and die out in a similar way to the popular myths about smoking and health.

RantyAnty · 05/01/2024 19:06

Does your husband also drink with you each night?

Jeannie88 · 05/01/2024 19:12

Having lived in different countries this is honestly nothing! Lots of stories but to shorten...drinking vodka at lunch and afternoon break at work (Poland), light beer with breakfast then stronger with each meal (Denmark), raki shots given with any meal (Crete), bottles of wine continuously with evening meal, also often lunch (France), neverending rice wine in China!

I suppose as a guest while working there they may ply us more but no actually this was their usual day.

UK, growing up, my Dad and other friends' parents would have a drink most nights, my Mum never, tee total.

A lot has changed the past few years and maybe these companies don't do it now. I also like to have a glass of wine or two in the evening but I do feel it can make us intolerant so I am looking to cut down as I have big glasses full!

Meanwhile life is doing what we enjoy and it's not like you're knocking back a bottle a night. We're being made to second guess everything we do these days and dissect everything we eat and drink, hence your question.

Just an honest opinion and yes it's good the world vibe has been focusing more on health but some take it to the extreme to make mortals feel guilty. On a regular night out I'm sure most of us have had more than a bottle of wine? X

Madamum18 · 05/01/2024 19:14

That amount of wine will damage your liver over time and you will suffer the consequences in future years. Cirrhosis of the liver is increasing in over worries...sorry but you fit the bill!!

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