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So worried about my baby, can any mums helps

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Mangochutneey · 03/01/2024 11:00

I have joined mumsnet specifically to ask about this as I am now feeling desperate. My baby had his one year vaccines this time last week, four injections in total including the MMR. The following day he had a high temperature of over 40, called 111 when nothing brought it down and they said to take to a and e. We did this and they said he was fine and temperature was high but probably the vaccine. Sent home. He has been an entirely different baby since that day. Temperature over 40 continued on and off for first 4 days, that has now stopped.

But my baby is looking vacant, not engaging, staring into space, not playing. We went to the supermarket yesterday and two separate people commented that ‘if looks could kill,’… he looks angry. This is not like him. The biggest worry I have is sleep… he slept 14.5 hours last night and is now having a nap again already after waking up at 9:30am? He did the same yesterday and also had a 2.5 hour nap in the afternoon as well. That’s almost 18 hours of sleep a day?

I am very pro vaccines and we are paying for the chicken pox one soon but this has really scared me. Why is he sleeping so much so long after? Why has his temperament changed?

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TooOldForThisNonsense · 03/01/2024 17:53

Hope he’s back to his old self soon :)

mine came out in a full body rash after the MMR; apparently the measles part of the jab kicking in.

Ohlookwhoitis · 03/01/2024 17:54

Verbena17 · 03/01/2024 15:54

Ohhhh so you’re being pedantic over the term damage and injury 🤔
If you want to know the answers to the questions - I’m sure you’re quite able to find out yourself.

This is a baby - whatever the reason for his change in behaviour /raised temp etc, there’s no reason why the mum shouldn’t seek further assessment for her baby.

Ah the classic "do your own research"...after you made wild claims.

Diamondcurtains · 03/01/2024 17:54

Back to the doctor straight away. This happened to my nephew and the eye rolling was seizures. He was diagnosed with West Syndrome.

Nanny0gg · 03/01/2024 17:54

Verbena17 · 03/01/2024 16:23

@AnneValentine what you just said in your previous post is that you think it’s totally fine that 72 people had to claim for being vaccine injured.

So you don’t give a shit that 72 people had an injury from a vaccine. So in order to care, you want the number to be much higher? 🤔

@Mangochutneey i hope your doctor’s appointment went ok and that your little one is doing ok and gets back to his old self soon.

Wow! Way to twist an argument.

(that's not how you win them btw)

Nanny0gg · 03/01/2024 17:56

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 16:27

I hated having to make these choices. I decided one dose of MMR was enough.

Well, for your child's sake I hope they were.

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 17:56

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 17:50

What blood test?

To detect some protein. Elevated lactic acid, maybe.

Crayfishforyou · 03/01/2024 17:58

My dd seemed to come down with mumps after the mmr. she wasn’t well at all for about a week, and then slightly off/recovering for another week.
It was worth it though, I couldn’t have the MMR as a kid and i was hospitalised with measles.

Nanny0gg · 03/01/2024 17:58

BlackFriYay · 03/01/2024 16:49

It's incredibly frustrating how parents are shut down if they dare to mention their child having a reaction to a vaccine. It's as though you can't report feeling a bit shit after having one, or it simply must be a coincidence.

My children have had all of their vaccines, aside from some lethargy, temps and tiredness for a few days which is normal, they were absolutely fine.

However my friend's DS had a really bad reaction and ended up in hospital with seizures.

People have been injured by vaccines.

Vaccines can affect people differently.

I felt like shit for a week after my flu jab, like proper full on flu.

Why are we deluding ourselves and trying to delude others into thinking that there's no such thing as bad reactions to vaccines.

The people reporting them aren't coming from a place of being anti vax, if they were they wouldn't have had the bloody things in the first place.

The government has and will pay compensation to people who have been damaged by vaccines. Take a look on their own website. Why would such a thing exist if there were no risks with routine vaccines?

https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment

Jesus christ.

Anyway, I hope your little one feels better soon OP. I'm sure he will. My eldest was miserable after his MMR but he was fine again shortly after.

But many, many more people are damaged by NOT having them

Let's not go back to the days of polio, diphtheria and TB shall we?

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 18:02

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 17:56

To detect some protein. Elevated lactic acid, maybe.

That’s only for certain types of seizure / conditions though. EEG’s are what’s typically used. And really it’s a leap here and on balance not worth putting the baby through, particularly as chapped lips suggest dehydrated.

NightisdarkandfullofterrorsGOT · 03/01/2024 18:07

Eyes rolling back is a sign of seizures. I would take him to the gp.

NightisdarkandfullofterrorsGOT · 03/01/2024 18:09

Get another opinion

CarolChristmasCake · 03/01/2024 18:09

NightisdarkandfullofterrorsGOT · 03/01/2024 18:07

Eyes rolling back is a sign of seizures. I would take him to the gp.

keep up 😆

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 18:10

NightisdarkandfullofterrorsGOT · 03/01/2024 18:07

Eyes rolling back is a sign of seizures. I would take him to the gp.

No - it CAN be. Rarely.

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 18:11

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 18:02

That’s only for certain types of seizure / conditions though. EEG’s are what’s typically used. And really it’s a leap here and on balance not worth putting the baby through, particularly as chapped lips suggest dehydrated.

Seizures are quite common in unwell babies. No one should leap to anything but it’s important the OP is aware of what medical care her child could have access to.

Tacotortoise · 03/01/2024 18:12

NightisdarkandfullofterrorsGOT · 03/01/2024 18:07

Eyes rolling back is a sign of seizures. I would take him to the gp.

I'm sure it can be but when mine were little it was a sign that they were about to drop off to sleep. Ds2 used to do it in his high chair at dinner time.

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 18:13

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 18:11

Seizures are quite common in unwell babies. No one should leap to anything but it’s important the OP is aware of what medical care her child could have access to.

Define common? And you mean febrile seizure I assume which this is not.

The OP has seen a GP who isn’t concerned, blood tests are NOT the go to for seizure concerns.

Nanny0gg · 03/01/2024 18:19

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 03/01/2024 17:01

I come from a generation that grew up before most jabs (born in 1954, measles jab developed in 1968). I had measles, rubella, whooping cough and mumps and I can't believe anyone would watch their children go through those illnesses in preference to a couple of vaccinations. DM had us signed up for every one going once they became available. Several school friends died of now-preventable childhood illnesses.

Me too,

A boy in my class at primary school wore a calliper on his leg due to polio.

My father had TB so I had the BCG when I was 1 and had yearly chest x-rays after that

GlasgowGal82 · 03/01/2024 18:20

Did your baby have the jab for meningitis by any chance? My eldest had this slightly older than normal because it wasn't part of the vaccination schedule when he was a baby but it was for his little brother and I wanted them to have the same. I think he was about 2.5 year olds, had a really high temperature, disturbed sleep and was able to describe some pretty wild hallucinations! When my youngest had it as a baby he also had the temperature and the disturbed sleep, but he was too young to describe what he was going through. I don't regret giving them that vaccine because meningistis is so dangerous, but I think having the vaccine can lead to a really rough couple of days. I hope that's helpful information, and that your baby feels better soon.

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 18:24

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 18:13

Define common? And you mean febrile seizure I assume which this is not.

The OP has seen a GP who isn’t concerned, blood tests are NOT the go to for seizure concerns.

Common as in it happens in babies as a complication of a viral infection whereas it wouldn’t happen to an adult.

Theunamedcat · 03/01/2024 18:25

My son reacted like this to his vaccines he was seen in out of hours after each of them and his mmr was delayed bybabout 6 months because of it ultimately they said he was a small baby with an enthusiastic immune response he has had all his vaccines so far just a little later than usual

The mouth thing might be swollen glands my middle had a thin neck you could literally SEE his tonsils from the outside tip his head back and Lord there they were came in handy when he refused to let the Dr look at them in his mouth "well I can't tell if his tonsils are up" " look up ds" " good grief those are swollen" 😂 was a regular conversation

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 03/01/2024 18:26

That's great news. GP sees lots of poorly and borderline poorly babies - it's ok to be reassured. If there was any evidence of seizures she'd have seen it. It's also fine to take her back if you're not happy, but the advice of "relax" now and review if the eye rolling continues in a few days is fine.

It's hard when they are tiny and you should always trust your instincts. You should also always bear in mind that babies are resilient and can be right little weirdos.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 03/01/2024 18:30

Mischance · 03/01/2024 14:20

Please do not peddle this sort of misinformation. Vaccines have been the most important preventive health success since sanitation. We are so very lucky to have these. Millions of people are alive and healthy today because of them. There are many many children around the world dying of these illnesses because of lack of access to vaccines.

👍

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 18:36

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 18:24

Common as in it happens in babies as a complication of a viral infection whereas it wouldn’t happen to an adult.

That isn’t what common means.

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 18:38

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 18:36

That isn’t what common means.

I’ve watched it happen in two babies and no adults. Why are you so argumentative

AnneValentine · 03/01/2024 18:40

ValerieMoore · 03/01/2024 18:38

I’ve watched it happen in two babies and no adults. Why are you so argumentative

I’ve watched it in my own child. So what?

Common means it is something that happens frequently. It doesn’t mean it’s something that happens in children and not adults. It might happen more commonly in children but that still doesn’t mean it’s common. And none of this has anything at all to do with your suggestion of a blood test.

I am not argumentative, I’m clarified misleading comments and some outright nonsense ones.

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