To draw your attention to Mr Bates vs The Post Office

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There is already a thread about this on the Telly Addicts forum here

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4970440-mr-bates-vs-the-post-office-mon-to-thur-itv-9pm-tv-pace-no-spoilers

However this seems like such an important subject that I thought I would draw attention to it on AIBU.

The first episode aired tonight but the whole series is available on itvx.

Most of you will no doubt have heard about the Horizon scandal, but whether you have or you haven't this program is compelling. It will probably make you furious but it deserves as wide an audience as possible.,

This is his story in 2011, on the BBC:

Later he took the story to Panorama, and to Private Eye, and to The Times. I have to say that it's kind of weird that people blame the press. Without them, this would never have come out. And I currently live in a county with a far more deferential media which wouldn't have done any of this.

I don’t know how the likes of Adam Crozier and Paula Vennells can look at themselves in the mirror. I would want to die if my actions had led to someone’s suicide.

This is why cash is king. Stop relying on computers; the plug can be pulled at any time.

PiL were good friends for a man sent to prison for this. He’s died before any kind of apology came through. It’s horrific. I hope his widow gets compensation.

Yes, I think I'd missed that Adam Crozier had been rewarded with that plum job by ITV in 2010.

Paula Vennells getting ordained as a Church of England priest I knew about – and the CofE's subsequent rejection of her.

Unspeakable pair. I can't safely post what I actually think of them.

I've been following this scandal for many years – I think I first heard of it around 2011 – and like other posters absolutely couldn't believe it was continuing after the first media reports.

Because there's a toxic culture of silence there.

If that's true, the Post Office Horizon scandal is going to be to Fujitsu what the Enron scandal was to Arthur Andersen.

I hope that's true, but they are running quite a lot of government IT so they will have to be replaced no doubt at great expense if they do go west.

Also it plainly wasn't just Fujitsu - the Post Office commissioned an forensic accounting company and then canned them when it didn't like the answers (that the system was suspect).

Oh absolutely. The jaw-dropping thing about this is the fact that so many people and organisations have been complicit.

Agreee with @LoobyDop that in any decently run IT project this wouldn’t happen or would be dealt with once the stats showed up on the bug reports. As a pp said, it’s culture that makes or breaks an organisation and that comes from the top.

DH has been reading Private Eye all his life and I’ve got into the habit too. I used to be put off by the cartoons that can be a bit puerile and I thought it was just satire, but actually they do a lot of long running investigative reporting. I now think it’s worth its weight in gold - certainly worth subscribing.

These types seem to have no conscience.

Blimey, who are the 6% who have clicked YABU?

I mean, it might be real. But if you've misclicked, MN does let you go back and change your vote.

True, but both organisations (specifically Fujitsu) have been lying through their teeth since this whole thing started. The number of complaints should have rang bells left, right and centre.

@prh47bridge thank you

I watched it, those poor people!!! The stress would have been unbearable. Really heart breaking.

I've been following this for sometime and glad it is getting a wider audience. The sheer arrogance of large organisations has no bounds.

And also note how, whenever money is involved in crime (or alleged/invented crime in the case of the PO staff), it's always taken way more seriously, with much stiffer sentences, than when it's actually people, health and/or lives at stake.

As a country, our legal system (including the PO's in-house one) value arbitrarily-assigned credits far, far more highly than actual humans and their lives. They don't even try to hide it.

I watched the whole thing (ill and cant do anything much but watch tv). It was so good, and made me so angry.

Is it on tonight?

Most of the UK legal system is a putrid stinking pile of crap

Not using Post Office for travel cards or travel insurance anymore after watching this.

@ssd every night 9pm

Watching second part right now. I’m now boycotting the post office.

Between, when the lady self harmed her self I become really triggered by the scene and next minute they were operating on her but I was confused why? Can anyone explain that part?

Was some kind of electric shock treatment for depression not an operation. ECT.