I'm definitely being unreasonable! Comparing lives with Australians!

[teulie]

Watched a lot of Love Island Australia and MAFS Australia this year and follow a lot of the people from it now. Seeing all their stories all year and today for NYE, the sunshine, the beaches, the groups of girls all just having the best time being young in such a beautiful country with the best sort of lifestyle and it makes me feel sad!

I'm in my late twenties married with two kids, boring job, normal family life style but I look and think god could I of done that? Could life of been like that?

One of my old friends is currently in Australia so I'm seeing their insta stories all day everyday and it's made the pining worse than ever, I've never even been there and I find myself just wishing I could do life again and be born there

Why not plan a holiday over there and see if it matches up to the dream? If you really did love it, you could look into getting a visa. And if it wasn’t so great and you were glad to get home then it would stop the pining.

@SmugglersHaunt

So the racial tension can’t be solved by Australians? Your argument seems to be that it was ‘created by the British’, but your country is seemingly incapable of changing it. It’s not a stunning endorsement

It absolutely can, but that isn't something that is resolved in the space of a generation.

To give you an idea - in the past month :

we've been on evacuation warning for a local bushfire that destroyed houses, buildings and businesses (no lives lost thankfully)

we've had multiple hailstorms that left my car badly dented, my daughter's car with a cracked windscreen, the neighbours solar panels badly damaged and my son with concussion (he got hit by a golf ball sized hailstone)

we've had 9 thunderstorms with 3 lightning strikes on the estate

and temperatures in excess of 40C

Food prices have increased by around 30% in the past 18mths, electricity is almost 50% higher than last year and interest rate rises have seen people paying an additional $1200 a month on a $500,000 mortgage since the beginning of this year. On our estate a home and land package pre covid was less than the current cost of the same sized block of land today - prices have more than doubled.

While living here has been good for my family and has meant we've missed out on a lot of the problems in the UK (covid deaths for instance were massively lower) it's not the miracle solution so many people seem to think it is.

Racism is rife, socially we're at least 15 years behind the rest of the developed world and everything is so damn expensive. We still have 2 adult children (26 & 28) living at home because they can't afford to move out and if we're honest we can't afford for them to move out.

Australia's a great place for a holiday but not to live.

@ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming

Didn't take long did it? The usual rubbish is being trotted out ad nauseum.

When I was very young I thought the whinging stereotype was awful - soon changed my mind about that!

And what appears on MAFS isn't really representative of normality at all.

A friend of mine said after a business trip to England, "It's grey, drab, oppressive, there are people everywhere and the houses are miles of cookie-cutter monotony. The museums are great, though." I don't judge England based on that statement, though, and would still like to go there.

Ah the Little Englanders are out in force I see, as they shiver in their little grey boxes with a tiny square courtyard garden that they take their dog out to four times a day to shit and piss on, dreaming of their annual Majorca piss up via Ryanair.

Meanwhile, diverse, multicultural, beautiful, imperfect Australia with the oldest living cultures on Earth just gets on with living.

Well I’m on the Gold Coast for Christmas and New Year. We had a five day power cut from Christmas Day evening and then such huge storms last night that there has been another power cut and flooding. People have died. I’m being bitten all the time. There have been some nice bits too (beach etc) but god I don’t know how anybody can live like this.

Woohoo another Australia bashing thread, how original!

Anyway, I'll let you all get back to your "BuT tHeReS nO CuLtUrE aNd ItS 40 DeGrEeS" 🙄

(I should say I absolutely love Australia and come here every year - I just think the GC in their summer is hard work!)

Yesterday there was one about South East Asians ... but no racism to see here ... 🤔

The city centre is quite small but the city itself extends for miles and miles. No use to non drivers like us.

Eh? Melbourne born and bred here, I never needed a car when I lived there, even when I was in the outermost suburbs that were almost in Gippsland. Train services, trams in the inner-middle suburbs, and buses. I didn't need to learn to drive till I moved to a country town in my fifties.

In the 90s and 2000s? Nonsense. I was born in 1963 and the idea of Britain being "home" or us being British was well and truly dead by the time I was a kid.

@Catsmere 😆I know right.

Most of us Australians are from more diverse heritage than British. We really should stop blaming England for the oppression and racism and mistreatment of indigenous Australians.

@MaitlandGirl

Is your username a clue to your whereabouts? If so, I live near you.

I live in Australia and my life is just exactly like MAFS AND LAFS. Not. Not glamorous, not paid well, urban fucking sprawl everywhere, high cost of living.

@IamMini we’re up near Kurri :)

I live in Sydney and love it. Loads of national park and beaches within 15 mins of home, train direct to city job, cost of living is high but not unbearable. The major drawback is getting to Europe etc for holidays - takes 8 hrs just to get off our big red country 😂 so those are holidays our family can only afford every 3-4 years. Bali, Hong Kong etc all nice and close so our holidays are centred around SE Asia more where I guess you all can nip off to Paris for the weekend! That’s like a dream for us. Loved visiting London but needed a translator for people from the north I could hardly understand them and they seemed to skip words and only say half the sentence. Otherwise I absolutely love it here and wouldn’t move overseas even for a free house and car. Why not come for a holiday OP and see if you like it? Nothing has to be forever.

I really hate these threads. It gives everyone permission to piss all over Australia.

Well, I'm an Aussie living finally back in Australia and I couldn't be happier. Those that come here and are miserable, aren't wrong though. It's not like the UK, life is very different, your family isn't near by, you'll likely struggle to make friends because we're all busy working and hanging with our own friends and family.

After 10 years in London though, you couldn't pay me to move back. Dh is Irish so maybe one day we'll have to move over to that side of the world ag, but until then I'm very happy here and agree, it's not a lifestyle for everyone.

@Catsmere

In the 90s and 2000s? Nonsense. I was born in 1963 and the idea of Britain being "home" or us being British was well and truly dead by the time I was a kid.

Perhaps it depends on your heritage. Mine is English/Irish. My grandparents, who would have been born 1930 or so, certainly had this view. Newsreels of this time had announcers speaking in distinctive English accents and this continued far into the 60s and 70s. Australians were 'British subjects' until 1984.

Below is an except from a speech that explains it well:

So it was that until 1949 Australians remained British subjects, possessing no unique citizenship of their own. Then in 1949 we became Australian citizens though still the Constitution remained silent on citizenship, unlike the United States' Constitution which ever since the 1860s has declared and defined citizenship of the United States. In Australia it was left to the Federal Parliament to enact the notion of Australian citizenship after World War 11. As the Minister for Immigration of the day, Arthur Calwell, put it, the time had come for Australia to recognise its maturity as a member of the British Commonwealth. For the next twenty years Australians were not only citizens of this country but at the same time British subjects. In 1969 the law was changed and we ceased to be British subjects but, rather mysteriously, acquired instead 'the status of British subjects'. Finally, in 1984, there was a further change; we ceased altogether to be British subjects and ever since we have been simply Australian citizens and nothing more.

classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/MonashULawRw/2000/13.pdf

I'm closer to Morpeth 🙂

We just landed in Aus and I couldn't be happier 😁

I think it's very cool to have lived in 6 different countries! Do you mind sharing which countries they were? Which was your favorite? Is there any other country you haven't lived in that you would still like to try?

It sounds like you chose the dull married wth kids life a bit early.
One good thing is you'll still be youngish when they leave home, that is, if you don't so something daft, like have a baby at 40.😂

Australia is a strange place to live. There is some good about it but if you're not a heavy drinker and into sport, it's rather boring.
Very in your face racism, sexism, and xenophobia.

Super expensive, difficult to find housing now, food is meh.

Most newer houses have central heat and air but it's expensive hell to run it.

@IamMini My heritage is also English/Irish and I was born in the 70’s. No one in my family considered themselves as British, not even my grandparents. Every year we celebrated Christmas it was what we considered a very Aussie summer Christmas with salads, seafood, cold meats, tropical fruits and watermelon.

The first time I spent Christmas with an English family it was very different with roast pork, roast lamb, roast vegetables, pudding and was absolutely delicious but very different from what I was used to.

The information you posted about our laws changing regarding being British subjects in 1969 is interesting. But, I don’t think it really reflects how everyone or even the majority of people in Australia regarded themselves.

And they never shut up about it either!!!

Where you from? Malvern? NO, WHERE ARE YOU REALLY FROM?

So do you like it here?
Trick questions to insult you and your country no matter what you say.

Permanent chip on their shoulders!