More a wwyd? XL bully

[alrightluv]

There's an awful couple moved in our street. It's terraced. Always fighting and letting their huge XL bully run in the street. The dog hasn't shown aggression so far.

My problem is they have little control over it. There's children in the street and walking to and from school.

Yet again early hours they're arguing plus others in the house are. The dog is in the street.

I'm tempted to report them but an innocent dog could be taken away. I just don't want to regret it if it does turn. It's so big an adult wouldn't stand a chance.

Has anyone else been in a similar situation?

As of today it needs to be muzzled and on a lead. If I saw an XL bully without, even just stood there minding its own business, I wouldn't hesitate to report.

I've seen some wonderful posts on FB from vets who have pulled out the stops to help, youre heroes ❤️

Interestingly I've seen a lot from vet practices who have said they will refuse to PTS a healthy XL. While that does worry me as to what will happen to the dog - will it just get abandoned etc. - I appreciate the stand they are making.

Also, it will be likely that xl bullies can be rehomed after today.

It is stated that pibulls and the other 3 banned breeds cannot be rehomed, but they actually can. There can be a court case to give keepership of already exempted dogs to a different person. But there are criteria that need to be met such as the person must be considered 'fit and proper' and must also be known to the dog for example a previous owner, the breeder or dog walker. The person can't just be a random stranger.

Transfer of “keepership” of prohibited type dogs - The Crown Prosecution Service https://www.cps.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/legal_guidance/Transfer-of-keepership-of-prohibited-types-of-dogs.docx

Don't forget a decent number of actual XL could be below the height required for it to be typed.

You could carry a tape measure to be sure 👍

PTS for what, exactly?

@Megifer

Do you genuinely believe that it is ever sensible or responsible for a parent with children in the home to choose an XL bully as the family pet, rather than one of the many other breeds available?

Dogo Argentino’s are already a banned breed in the UK.

Go and make friends withvthe scallies who argue and have an XL bully? 🤣

@VeterinaryCareAssistant

well done all of you 🤗

there are going to be some very traumatised vets/nurses after this awful 'cull'. Having to PTS healthy dogs.

people who have them in rescues too.

Being a dangerous breed not muzzled and on a lead.

@VeterinaryCareAssistant

i really hope you're right.🤞🏼🤞🏼

Report them to the police before it kills someone. Possibly even yourself.

Breed is irrelevant. Loose dog: call the dog warden.

I've had many dogs, I never think it's sensible they can be arseholes 🤣

Whether it's responsible to own any dog depends on the family set up, training, resources, space and commitment to ensure the dog is treated well and is cared for.

I wouldn't choose one because I don't like huge dogs tbh they are too slobbery and cost too much in food.

@Cincinnatus

jesus, I'd rather put my head in an XL Bully's mouth than listen to that kind of crap.

This legislation could be a move towards dog licensing. Dogs in a previous life were bred to be useful and work, not just sitting in a house somewhere waiting for the owner to let them out in a yard/garden or a quick walk to the park.
Research the breed and buy one appropriate for your lifestyle. They're not living teddy bears fgs. This debacle with the bully types is the fault of the people buying them and to be honest, serves them right for not carrying out due diligence.
If you see the dog roaming report it and let the authorities decide what to do.

@chompargh

yep, they're all just waiting for the next human to walk on by

"That poor dog" that is clearly from a volatile household so is likely to be poorly trained and potentially volatile itself. It's a mauling waiting to happen and should not be roaming the streets. It's not the OP's responsibility to go and make friends with the owners or ask them to be better owners, we have dog wardens to deal with these issues and that's who the OP should contact.

And before anyone says it's all in how a dog is raised, that may be the case but genetics do play a part in dog behaviour and these dogs have been so inbred that unpredictability is one of their traits. Their size and build also means that they have potential to cause catastrophic damage, I'd rather take my chances with a poorly bred and mistreated spaniel than an XL bully as I'm more likely to survive it. It's like guns. We know that in the right hands a gun can be a useful tool however we also recognise that they have the potential to cause great harm so we have restrictions on who can have them.

@Megifer exactly, I don’t mind dogs, my friends have dogs I enjoy their company when I’m there but I don’t have a dog, mainly because I don’t like them enough to own one but also because I know I don’t have the time to dedicate to one, we work, have kids, I’m studying, I like my house without animal smells and accidents which creates more work. This makes me a responsible person but these same thoughts don’t seem to enter other peoples heads who rush out to get dogs and puppies and don’t think past the instant gratification. Those that are turned down by rescues usually are for good reason (not always) so why then go and get a puppy? Why do they NEED one right at that moment in time from some unscrupulous back yard breeder? It doesn’t make any sense to me

Its not a “breed”, which is part of the problem with this ridiculous new legislation

Regardless is breed call the dog warden. It’s irresponsible to allow any dog to run the streets freely. The dog warden will charge the owners to release the dog back to them, hopefully that will make them more responsible.

As an e.g. I have a pal who has a big house, huge garden, kids are well behaved and sensible, parents WFH in tandem, they have plenty of time, space and money. If they got an XL I wouldn't think anything of it.

My other pal, chaotic house (her own admission), people in and out all the time, its loud, kids are 'spirited', house is way too small for a huge dog, they are in and out of different jobs, they are a bit lazy (own admission again). If they got an XL I'd think that was pretty irresponsible tbh.

@whatsitcalledwhen I personally like xl bullies - I like chunky dogs like dogue de bordeauxs and English bull terriers, and I personally believe that any dog, when raised in a family home from a puppy, can be an excellent family pet.

Owners should have researched the breed they've chosen and thought about how to manage children and dogs together - things like training the dog to not resource guard, teaching children how to interact properly with dogs, being aware of feeding time and actually getting children involved with teaching the dog to sit and wait for its food, making sure children stay out if the dogs bed or crate etc. And that goes for all dogs not just xls.

However, I also think it's not wise to bring dogs into families where they're not used to children or the children aren't sensible. It can be done with careful introductions and some dogs adapt straightaway and others take more time, but obviously the more powerful the breed the more damage they could do to a person, for instance if they are startled from sleep or if they've resourced guard.

Many adult dogs have trust issues and have been passed from home to home and not properly socialised which can causes behaviour issues and/or reactivity. That applies to any dog not just xls.

It's not necessarily the breed. There are many xls, staffies, rotties, labs that are "good with children", and are generally more tolerant of the odd poke or ear tug (which I'm definitely not condoning) and many other breeds such as collies, spaniels and shar peis and many small dogs that can be snappy and a bit bad tempered.

It's about finding a fit for your family really.