Aibu to be sick of this!! Dog breeders on sm

MondayBags678 · 2023-12-30T07:13:01+00:00

Argh I am so sick of opening up fb or instagram etc and friends or people that I know having and advertising dog litters! Most the time cross breeds or their x breed crosses!! Advertising puppy’s for new homes one has “7 needs new homes aged 8 week’s” like why have you done it if you don’t have people lined up!! Aibu to think it’s irresponsible and selfish , as I thought dog shelters were over run! I have no issue if people breed responsible eg if there’s demand and they are doing all the research and relevant health testing etc etc but it feels like they are not thinking about anything other than a potential financial gain? Past two days I’ve seen sausages dog litters looking for homes and cocker spaniels and poodle crosses and doodles etc etc lost count …. small google search tells me there’s over 90 odd litters of one particular breed in my area alone!!!! even more annoying is them asking questions such as why is my bitch doing this? Why is the puppies doing that? Do I need to worm them etc etc argh come on why oh why are you asking for advice on Facebook and not your vet or doing the bloody research before hand!!! is it me or are other people noticing this? It’s making me sad as I am actually a dog and animal lover and I wasn’t against breeding as such until maybe the last year when I’ve been more aware of this plus another woman I know bred her dog and had issues and all the litter died!! I won’t forget it! Doubt she will too. job for today is to remove all these posts off my news feed as I don’t want to see it anymore.

cocktailanddreams · 30/12/2023 07:24

Yes social media full of it. Most trying to give away their xl bullies....very loving, caring, cuddling etc etc....with a heart break emoji

Iheartmysmart · 30/12/2023 07:25

Fortunately I’m not on much social media so haven’t seen anything like this. I was really shocked the other day though when looking on a couple of websites at the sheer number of litters available, advertised by people saying their beloved family pet had had puppies. Literally hundreds of them. It’s so bloody irresponsible.

I lost my old boy back in October at the age of 13 and remember when looking for his breed there were very few pups available. He was a show cocker so nothing particularly rare. Now there are many hundreds of them, how on earth they will all find homes I have no idea. Undoubtedly they’ll be dumped at a rescue centre in the not too distant future.

When I’m ready, I’ll be getting a rescue. Can’t stomach the idea of funding any of these imbeciles by buying a puppy.

Xis · 30/12/2023 07:28

Pet ownership is anachronistic and unethical, full stop. If you (general ‘you’) are the sort of person who just does what they want because they want to, and doesn’t care about the wider consequences, then I can understand why you have pet dogs. But if you claim to care for animals or the environment then you don’t keep pets or you are exposed as a liar, or at the very least, a person who just follows others without thinking things through.

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MondayBags678 · 30/12/2023 07:31

Iheartmysmart · 30/12/2023 07:25

Fortunately I’m not on much social media so haven’t seen anything like this. I was really shocked the other day though when looking on a couple of websites at the sheer number of litters available, advertised by people saying their beloved family pet had had puppies. Literally hundreds of them. It’s so bloody irresponsible.

I lost my old boy back in October at the age of 13 and remember when looking for his breed there were very few pups available. He was a show cocker so nothing particularly rare. Now there are many hundreds of them, how on earth they will all find homes I have no idea. Undoubtedly they’ll be dumped at a rescue centre in the not too distant future.

When I’m ready, I’ll be getting a rescue. Can’t stomach the idea of funding any of these imbeciles by buying a puppy.

Oh so two people I know are saying they have show cocker litters due in January!!! Ones had a scan and is saying 11 puppies!!!! They have no experience and have used a mates dog
i cant believe they will potentially have to find potentially 11 new homes they already have two dogs and can’t see them having a third as they live in a small two bed flat!! They don’t even have a proper garden just access to a small concrete yard. Is it just me that thinks two adult dogs plus 11 puppies sounds like total and utter chaos?

ps sorry for your loss that’s so sad they do become one of the family and leave a huge hole.

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hattie43 · 30/12/2023 07:34

People will exploit anything that makes them money . Dog breeding isn't regulated either .
Totally agree with you OP. Breeding should not be allowed unless it's to enhance the breed eg to breed out genetic problems and even then should it be licensed.
We have far too many dogs languishing in rescue whilst many more are being born .
Truly saddening .

BlusteryLake · 30/12/2023 07:37

Yes, there seems to have been a huge increase in selfish, inappropriate and irresponsible dog owners in recent years, especially since the first lockdown.

nottaotter · 30/12/2023 07:41

Thats crazy, I read that French bulldogs were becoming less popular due to their health problems and was thinking that there might be some hope.

Breeding a dog in a small place with no garden sounds too stressful and horrible.

On a side note I don't understand why XL bully owners don't just comply with new law and keep the dog? Why the big rush to get the dog to Scotland? Obvs I know Scotland is excluded but just start using a muzzle and neuter/spay etc

wetotter · 30/12/2023 07:54

My guess is that there are people who got their dog during lockdown, when prices were ridiculously high, and who are hoping in turn to get their moment of profit. Lockdown dogs would be age around 3 now, which is a good age to have a litter. But demand for puppies is lower (as are prices)

They will be finding out that a well-produced home litter isn't a great money maker - even if you aren't paying stud fees, there are a lot of costs in looking after a pregnant bitch from the second half of pregnancy onwards, especially if vet assistance (maybe c-section) is required, plus the costs of feeding, equipping, vet checking, chipping etc the puppies

Iheartmysmart · 30/12/2023 07:56

@MondayBags678 Thank you.

They are lovely dogs but not an easy breed. People buy them thinking that they’re cute and are quite unprepared for their temperament. And don’t get me started on the idiots who don’t know that working cockers and show cockers are two very different breeds.

I lived with mine in a flat but only in his later years and it was bloody hard work with just one. Trying to housetrain a litter of pups with no immediate access to outside space is just madness.

RockandRollers · 30/12/2023 07:57

Nobody should buy them, that's the only way to stop it. These people don't give a toss as to the animals welfare. It's all about the money. Poor animals are literally breed to death in awful conditions. It's sickening.
My neighbours teenage son bought a puppy, they have never owned a pet before, and haven't got a clue. Just carry it around constantly taking photos of it on phone and it never stops barking. They won't pay for training. You can guarantee it will be given up in a few months once novelty has worn off.

CanImakethisbetter · 30/12/2023 07:57

It’s getting worse imo.

I am in several breed specific groups and the sheer number of people asking the group for advice on their litter and basic care for them is shocking.

and if anyone points out they should be consulting a vet if they don’t know what they are doing gets met with ‘this is a supportive space we don’t allow posting negativity’

I left a few, because the mods were more interested in being kind to the people posting than to the overall welfare of animals. It’s really obvious a lot of dodgy owners have no idea what they are doing from looking for a breeder to actually caring for and training the dog when they have it.

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MondayBags678 · 30/12/2023 07:59

CanImakethisbetter · 30/12/2023 07:57

It’s getting worse imo.

I am in several breed specific groups and the sheer number of people asking the group for advice on their litter and basic care for them is shocking.

and if anyone points out they should be consulting a vet if they don’t know what they are doing gets met with ‘this is a supportive space we don’t allow posting negativity’

I left a few, because the mods were more interested in being kind to the people posting than to the overall welfare of animals. It’s really obvious a lot of dodgy owners have no idea what they are doing from looking for a breeder to actually caring for and training the dog when they have it.

Yes ! I’ve seen this too!! It’s really sad

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DdraigGoch · 30/12/2023 08:13

Xis · 30/12/2023 07:28

Pet ownership is anachronistic and unethical, full stop. If you (general ‘you’) are the sort of person who just does what they want because they want to, and doesn’t care about the wider consequences, then I can understand why you have pet dogs. But if you claim to care for animals or the environment then you don’t keep pets or you are exposed as a liar, or at the very least, a person who just follows others without thinking things through.

Oh bore off...

Freshair1 · 30/12/2023 08:13

I despair for the state of the world with imbeciles like these in it.

21ZIGGY · 30/12/2023 08:15

Im in a dalmatian fb group as i have one and the amount of idiots with girls saying "how do i breed her" and dont see the ironybthat its next to the daily post by dalmatian welfare about another one needing rehoming. Dalmatians have big litters too. I have to hold my tongue/finger😬

wetotter · 30/12/2023 08:18

I wonder, if you asked these advertisers, what health tests were needed for their breed and whether COI was a factor, and how the dam and sire were rated, whether they would know the answer

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MondayBags678 · 30/12/2023 08:28

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2023 08:13

Oh bore off...

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Didn’t see that! I don’t even really understand it? Do they mean dogs should be living in the wild and running around in packs?

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Missingmyusername · 30/12/2023 08:31

hattie43 · 30/12/2023 07:34

People will exploit anything that makes them money . Dog breeding isn't regulated either .
Totally agree with you OP. Breeding should not be allowed unless it's to enhance the breed eg to breed out genetic problems and even then should it be licensed.
We have far too many dogs languishing in rescue whilst many more are being born .
Truly saddening .

^ This

Why aren’t people outraged and contacting their M.P. Why doesn’t Rishi target breeders I wonder?

CoatOfArms · 30/12/2023 08:33

Because lots of people got dogs in the pandemic and don't have a clue? I knew a woman like this pre-pandemic, got a male and a female of the same breed and then acted all shocked when the female got pregnant. Whoops! How did THAT happen? Then a year later, whoops, it happened again! What are the chances? Never mind though, dozen or so puppies at £400 a pop softened the blow a little.

Clearly irresponsible and stupid but I'm sure the dog obsessed will be along shortly to tell us all shortly how they are entitled to have a dog and the rest of us must just fall in with their animals.

letstrythatagain · 30/12/2023 08:40

Xis · 30/12/2023 07:28

Pet ownership is anachronistic and unethical, full stop. If you (general ‘you’) are the sort of person who just does what they want because they want to, and doesn’t care about the wider consequences, then I can understand why you have pet dogs. But if you claim to care for animals or the environment then you don’t keep pets or you are exposed as a liar, or at the very least, a person who just follows others without thinking things through.

Eh?

Toooldtoworry · 30/12/2023 08:43

I'm on lots of Staffy and Alapaha pages and there have been lots of 'rehoming' posts. I'm of the opinion if you loved your dog you'd abide by the new regulation for them.

None of my 3 are requires to, but if they were I'd do it because the only way they're leaving me is if either I or they die.

Xis · 30/12/2023 08:48

Didn’t see that! I don’t even really understand it? Do they mean dogs should be living in the wild and running around in packs?

No. I mean keeping pets for amusement and companionship needs to end. That’s not love, that’s using animals to meet our wants and needs. A case can be made for disability assistance dogs and dogs for law enforcement but otherwise dog breeding needs to end and pet ownership dies out when the dogs currently alive die.

We should focus on enabling wild animals to thrive in their natural environments, affected by humans as little as possible, not creating attenuated toy animals to amuse us or meet our emotional needs.

Mollymalone123 · 30/12/2023 08:52

This is what I do.normally I’ll ask what health tests etc have been done, kc registration and in the puppy pack u give out will I get vet certificate etc.usually radio silence after that.if it’s fb then it’s breaking their rules about selling pets so I always report too.I’m not the only one that does this and more people are starting to make their opinions known about backyard breeding

tenbob · 30/12/2023 08:56

In my limited experience, amateur breeders fall into 2 categories

The clueless ones who just see it as an easy way to make money

And the ‘fur baby’ weirdos who think their pet is the best best dog that has ever existed and are doing the world a favour by breeding it, but only because cloning doesn’t exist.

Neither have a clue what they are doing but the latter seem to at least choose the mate with a bit of thought, even if it’s looking for another owner with the same overinflated opinion of their own dog

CleverLilViper · 30/12/2023 08:58

Xis · 30/12/2023 07:28

Pet ownership is anachronistic and unethical, full stop. If you (general ‘you’) are the sort of person who just does what they want because they want to, and doesn’t care about the wider consequences, then I can understand why you have pet dogs. But if you claim to care for animals or the environment then you don’t keep pets or you are exposed as a liar, or at the very least, a person who just follows others without thinking things through.

If you want to talk about the environment, I hope to fuck you don't have children...