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Why can't you just dispose of evidence in the bin

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someladdersandsnakes · 26/12/2023 13:30

I'm reading a thriller and the character done a murder and has destroyed her clothes by burning them. I feel like that would draw attention though. It wasn't the sort of crime that would be discovered immediately and the character wouldn't be suspected immediately either so I would have thought just putting them in the bin would be a good option really but nobody ever does that. Why not? Like surely once the rubbish van has come, and everything from the bins has been combined and smooshed down, there's no way any evidence would be recovered? Who's gonna dig through all that?

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jumperooog · 26/12/2023 21:02

You better all hope no one close to you dies of suspicious circumstances in the near future or police will be finding this thread in your history and suspecting you 🤣

MerryChristmas23 · 26/12/2023 21:07

Topofthemountain · 26/12/2023 20:54

Tastes like chicken.

Apparently.

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Ironic given the time of year, but I'd say an odd turkey/Chicken combination

Dry although that could be down to cooking method, rather flavourless, nothing to bother with again, especially given the faff of preparation. wouldn't order it in a restaurant.

Apparently.

Mammyloveswine · 26/12/2023 21:08

jumperooog · 26/12/2023 21:02

You better all hope no one close to you dies of suspicious circumstances in the near future or police will be finding this thread in your history and suspecting you 🤣

Ahaha I legit panic about this given my penchant for listening to murder podcasts to relax Grin

MikeRafone · 26/12/2023 21:10

I was always lead to believe that human flesh tasted like pork - but apparently its not like pork or chicken but similar to beef

MerryChristmas23 · 26/12/2023 21:14

Topofthemountain · 26/12/2023 16:45

If you have carried out a murder that has involved a lot of blood then you will not be thinking rationally afterwards. Hence not carefully discarding of things.

I watch some of the forensic shows on CBS reality, the things they can discover, even years later, is amazing. One man almost got away with it, he poisoned his wife with a very short lasting poison, so by the time she died from the effects all trace was gone. It was only solved because a nurse (colleague of the deceased) had taken some blood and hid it in a fridge (previous suspicions) and when it was discovered and tested, traces were found.

Unless you wanted it to look like an attack and frame someone else, it isn't difficult to make yourself bleed a lot, make up a burglary/attack scene and pretend or genuinely pass out from blood loss then make up some sob story to authorities and produced a few tears. You'd be surprised what humans are capable of, that's why we're considered the most dangerous animal.

educatingrati · 26/12/2023 21:14

beastlyslumber · 26/12/2023 15:13

Get a job in a funeral directors. Stuff the evidence in the bottom of coffins heading for the crem. You could probably dispose of a whole extra body that way.

That's both genius and a bit unnerving you've thought it through! 😂

MerryChristmas23 · 26/12/2023 21:17

Hettanett · 26/12/2023 16:21

@MerryChristmas23

Most serial killers don't do things properly

Look at Denis Nilsen! I reckon he wanted to be caught.

Of course he did, he was stupid

MikeRafone · 26/12/2023 21:18

nless you wanted it to look like an attack and frame someone else, it isn't difficult to make yourself bleed a lot, make up a burglary/attack scene and pretend or genuinely pass out from blood loss then make up some sob story to authorities and produced a few tears. You'd be surprised what humans are capable of, that's why we're considered the most dangerous animal.

they never seem to work on the real crime shows - the fake tears always seem to be seen for what they are, then they get body language readers in etc

MerryChristmas23 · 26/12/2023 21:20

jumperooog · 26/12/2023 21:02

You better all hope no one close to you dies of suspicious circumstances in the near future or police will be finding this thread in your history and suspecting you 🤣

The police in this country (England) are too stupid to figure it out even if you admitted to them what you'd done on body cams, I don't think any of us need to worry

MerryChristmas23 · 26/12/2023 21:21

MikeRafone · 26/12/2023 21:18

nless you wanted it to look like an attack and frame someone else, it isn't difficult to make yourself bleed a lot, make up a burglary/attack scene and pretend or genuinely pass out from blood loss then make up some sob story to authorities and produced a few tears. You'd be surprised what humans are capable of, that's why we're considered the most dangerous animal.

they never seem to work on the real crime shows - the fake tears always seem to be seen for what they are, then they get body language readers in etc

90% of cases are men, that's why

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 26/12/2023 21:24

MikeRafone · 26/12/2023 21:10

I was always lead to believe that human flesh tasted like pork - but apparently its not like pork or chicken but similar to beef

Do old people need long slow cooking and youngsters just a quick flash fry?

Asking for a friend

Mojolostforever · 26/12/2023 21:24

I would hire a boat, put the clothes in a bag with two bricks and dump them overboard when far enough out to sea.

I can see a problem though. Hiring a boat is tricky without leaving traces. You can't use a credit card and it looks odd using cash. Plus the boat hire place will have CCTV.

So maybe I'm just not cut out for murder. Burning the clothes seems sensible on second thoughts.

ISeeTheLight · 26/12/2023 21:26

The breaking bad scene is likely based on a real life serial killer on Belgium who dissolved his victims (his first 2 wives and several of his children) in drain cleaner. Very gruesome. It took a long time but eventually he was convicted. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/07/andrewosborn

Pastor who dissolved corpses of slain wives and children gets life

An elderly Hungarian émigré dubbed "the diabolical pastor" by the Belgian media was sentenced to life imprisonment yesterday after being found guilty of murdering his first two wives and four of his eight children.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/07/andrewosborn

Hettanett · 26/12/2023 21:26

MerryChristmas23 · 26/12/2023 21:17

Of course he did, he was stupid

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He was also as mad as a hatter.

doodlejump1980 · 26/12/2023 21:27

Best murder weapon is a big icicle. Evidence melts away. There. Sorted the disposing of the murder weapon scenario. 😬
or a frozen leg of lamb, then eat the evidence. Apparently. 😂

moistclam · 26/12/2023 21:30

Am I the only one suspicious of OP?

Hettanett · 26/12/2023 21:32

I read a spy novel by Ted Allbeury where MI5 have to kill a foreign spy they have in custody so they give him a cup of coffee with tasteless painless quick acting poison and when he is dead they put him in plain van and drive him at night to a side door at a crematorium in Wembley where they have a special arrangement.

MereDintofPandiculation · 26/12/2023 21:37

Monkeytapper · 26/12/2023 20:55

If I was going to murder someone I’d do it the day before bonfire night with a gun (not got a gun but nevermind) the sound of it going off wouldn’t sound suspicious as people would think it’s a firework…then burn body on a fire, not sure who’s fire yet but I’d fine one.

Wrapped in old clothes with fireworks stuffed in the pockets and put on top of the fire?

why do we burn GF when he wasn’t? Need to
google

VikingLady · 26/12/2023 21:48

SardineJam · 26/12/2023 15:49

Slightly off topic...I use a moon cup and have heavy periods, I often wonder if anyone was monitoring the sewerage/water ways and identified a larger amount of blood (yes I know it will thin out when mixed with loads of water), if that would ever raise suspicion

I've frequently wondered this when they swab inside a shower or bath drain, find blood and assume the body was dismembered there.

I have to take my glasses off to shower so shaving my legs results in a fair amount of blood (though not 8 pints). That plus a full moon cup emptied in the shower could maybe hide it?

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 26/12/2023 22:04

ISeeTheLight · 26/12/2023 21:26

The breaking bad scene is likely based on a real life serial killer on Belgium who dissolved his victims (his first 2 wives and several of his children) in drain cleaner. Very gruesome. It took a long time but eventually he was convicted. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/07/andrewosborn

There's a lot of weird stuff going on in Belgium

TheCaddieisaBaddie · 26/12/2023 22:06
  1. Start thread on MN on how to commit a murder and dispose of body. To cover up internet searches.
  2. Create weapon from ice
  3. Dig pit in garden for body
  4. Cut up and put in sealed bags full of lime which will dissolve flesh
  5. Throw bags in pit and cover up
  6. After period of time, dig up and you should just have bones left.
  7. Re- assemble bones and donate to local medical school as old uncle Bill's who was a Dr medical skeleton.
howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 26/12/2023 22:06

Mojolostforever · 26/12/2023 21:24

I would hire a boat, put the clothes in a bag with two bricks and dump them overboard when far enough out to sea.

I can see a problem though. Hiring a boat is tricky without leaving traces. You can't use a credit card and it looks odd using cash. Plus the boat hire place will have CCTV.

So maybe I'm just not cut out for murder. Burning the clothes seems sensible on second thoughts.

You could take it on a ferry crossing the north sea and drop it overboard. Apparently that worked for a footballer's wife's PR's mobile phone a few years ago.

EBearhug · 26/12/2023 22:10

We don't know how the really good murderers do it, because they've never been caught.

Pedallleur · 26/12/2023 22:13

Burning evidence is effective tho. No DNA or other traces. Bodies are hard to dispose of and may come to light at some point. Cameras are everywhere now so the police may be able to track your movements. Always someone with a dashcam or mobile phone.

aramox1 · 26/12/2023 22:14

Post them. Even to yourself, chances of it ever arriving...