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Why can't you just dispose of evidence in the bin

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someladdersandsnakes · 26/12/2023 13:30

I'm reading a thriller and the character done a murder and has destroyed her clothes by burning them. I feel like that would draw attention though. It wasn't the sort of crime that would be discovered immediately and the character wouldn't be suspected immediately either so I would have thought just putting them in the bin would be a good option really but nobody ever does that. Why not? Like surely once the rubbish van has come, and everything from the bins has been combined and smooshed down, there's no way any evidence would be recovered? Who's gonna dig through all that?

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BigBoysDontCry · 03/01/2024 15:06

Apparently menstrual blood differs from other blood.

GrandParade · 03/01/2024 15:32

BigBoysDontCry · 03/01/2024 15:06

Apparently menstrual blood differs from other blood.

Yes, different chemical make up, less iron, platelets etc compared to venous/arterial blood.

givemushypeasachance · 03/01/2024 16:57

The best way to get away with a murder is for no one to think a murder has happened. If the police find a suspicious body and get the impression the person has been killed deliberately, they will investigate and you're much more likely to be stuffed. Either make the body disappear if there is scope for the person to have gone missing/disappeared voluntarily, police may investigate but it happens a lot, police have limited resources, and in the right circumstances it's written off as "they're an adult and entitled to go restart their life if they want to".

Or have the body found immediately but be chalked up as a suicide, or an accident, or a medical cause of death. Suicides are investigated by the coroner but again in the right circumstances not too many questions are asked, it happens a lot, if you can point to any sort of mental health background (who hasn't got that) and one or two people who will say yes X did say they'd been feeling down lately, a stressor in your life (again who hasn't got that) then boom, cause of death suicide. Or you can try to stage a car accident, though again police will look into that, or an accidental overdose, a fall down the stairs, or you were thinking of taking up wild swimming and went out too far in inclement weather and got into difficulties... loads of things you wouldn't think too many times about if you heard that so-and-so down the road died in an unfortunate way.

Medical issues wise not sure how easy it would be to fake unless the victim already had a relevant condition. If an autopsy takes place that fake heart attack won't have the right signs; best kept to someone a doctor will straight off sign the certificate for without insisting on examination.

LoobyDop · 03/01/2024 18:40

You could trap an angry bee in the car of a person about to drive on a twisty road in poor conditions. They’d be distracted by the bee, crash the car, and the damage would probably leave a gap the bee could escape through.

HipHop63 · 12/01/2024 13:41

Some bloke was caught for a murder in 1988 21 years later when investigators, posing as members of a fictitious law firm, sent a letter to the murderer inviting him to join a class-action lawsuit for overpaid parking tickets. After he licked a return envelope investigators had mailed to him, his DNA was matched to a sample that had been recovered from the body.

GrandParade · 12/01/2024 14:40

HipHop63 · 12/01/2024 13:41

Some bloke was caught for a murder in 1988 21 years later when investigators, posing as members of a fictitious law firm, sent a letter to the murderer inviting him to join a class-action lawsuit for overpaid parking tickets. After he licked a return envelope investigators had mailed to him, his DNA was matched to a sample that had been recovered from the body.

This just shows I am not wrong to regard licking stamps and envelopes as a grotesque and unhygienic practice!

I’ve just been watching Berlin, a (very silly) spin-off prequel from Casa de Papel/ Money Heist, and the heist gang robbing jewels from an auction house vault confuse the police by deliberately dropping hairs etc that they’ve collected from loads of people of different nationalities, ethnicities etc at their hideouts leaving thousands of different DNA samples.

KimberleyClark · 12/01/2024 17:16

I’ve just been listening to a podcast - the Crossbow Killer, BBCsounds - in which the murderer was convicted purely on the of telematic evidence - his phone, but also his car. He had a very fancy land rover which was recording all the movements of his car, opening of the doors etc and sending it to the cloud. There was no DNA evidence and nothing tying him to the crime scene. So if you’re thinking of disposing of evidence by driving somewhere remote make sure you use an old banger.

coldcallerbaiter · 12/01/2024 22:02

Wonder how many get away with it as a percentage.

Feed the bodies to the pigs, they’ll eat everything, was one story I saw…

coldcallerbaiter · 12/01/2024 22:07

In the USA look for who holds the life insurance policy. Some really suspicious ones with upping the premiums beforehand or having a policy on someone you have no dependence on.

coldcallerbaiter · 12/01/2024 22:16

Actually many years ago a friend of a friend did die falling off a cliff when hiking with her dh. Deemed an accident.

I joked with my dh that the guy probably pushed her. I meant it as a sick joke at the time but now I am wondering…

FuckinghellthatsUnbelievable · 12/01/2024 22:47

coldcallerbaiter · 12/01/2024 22:02

Wonder how many get away with it as a percentage.

Feed the bodies to the pigs, they’ll eat everything, was one story I saw…

Everything apart from teeth and hair ( apparently teeth don't digest and will come through the other end) pretty sure that's how they caught a killer in the states. Pliers first?

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