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To think that 'some' of the Welsh players were down right ignorant yesterday!

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mosschops30 · 16/03/2008 13:43

I went to watch the match at the millenium stadium with my (welsh) dh. It was amazing and I really wanted Wales to win, it was a fantastic day with great atmosphere.

However when we watched the tv coverage I noticed that half of the team didnt even acknowledge Prince William let alone shake his hand (although team captain and all round nice bloke Ryan Jones did twice ).

Now I know the welsh will say prince william shouldnt be there, but thats the way its working and even though I dont like the Royals myself, i think he's the best of a bad bunch. And if I had to be presented something by one of them I certainly wouldnt turn the other cheek because I have some manners.

I felt embarrassed by their ignorance, it was shameful. I get loads of abuse for being english living here and my general opinion of wales isnt great but this just reinforced the fact that some welsh people continue to be ignorant bigots where the english are concerned

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MadameCh0let · 19/03/2008 09:21

There are Welsh activists?

Actively what?

beaniesteve · 19/03/2008 15:35

There used to be a lot of activism in Wales, some of it to do with the language, some to do with Holiday homes. Depends how far back you go really.

The Rebecca Riots took place between 1839 and 1844 in South Wales and Mid Wales. They were a protest against the high tolls which had to be paid on the local Turnpike roads.

things like this (below) meant the language was in danger

"The Welsh Not or Welsh Note was a piece of wood, inscribed with the letters "WN", that was hung round the necks of children who spoke Welsh in some schools in the 19th century. The "not" was given to any boy overheard speaking Welsh, who would pass it to a different boy he overheard speaking Welsh. By the end of the day, the wearer of the "not" would be given a lashing. The idea of the "not" was to discourage pupils from speaking Welsh, at a time when English was considered by some to be the only suitable medium of instruction."

a number of measures, including the introduction of the Welsh Language Act 1993, Welsh has enjoyed a strong revival in recent years and has an equal status with English in the public sector in Wales. Of the 611,000 Welsh speakers in Wales, 62% claim to use Welsh daily, and 88% of those fluent in the language use it daily.
The 2004 Welsh Language Use Survey shows 21.7% of the population of Wales are Welsh speakers. This is an increase from 20.5% in the 2001 census, and from 18.5% in 1991. The 2001 census also shows that about 25% of Welsh residents were born outside Wales. The number of Welsh speakers in the rest of Britain is unknown.

Cymdeithas yr Iaith Gymraeg

The Society was established in name on 4 August 1962 at Pontarddulais in South Wales, but did not have a constitution until 18 May 1963. The formation was at least partly inspired by the annual BBC Wales Radio Lecture given on the 13th of February 1962 by Saunders Lewis and entitled Tynged yr iaith (The fate of the language).[1]

The Society's first public protest took place in October 1962 at Pont Trefechan in Aberystwyth, where around forty members and supporters held a 'sit-in' blocking road traffic for half an hour.

The first campaigns were for official status for the language, with a call for Welsh-language tax returns, schools, electoral forms, post office signs, birth certificates and so on. This was done through the formation of 'cells', the first operating in Bangor in April 1963 by Owain Owain who also founded and edited the Society's only publication, Tafod y Ddraig ('The Dragon's Tongue') and logo.

Cymdeithas yr Iaith believes in non-violent direct action and in the course of their campaigns over a thousand people have appeared before the courts for their part in various campaigns, many receiving prison sentences, making it one of Britain's largest protest groups since the suffragettes - in terms of fines and the numbers sent to prison.[2][3] Typical actions include painting slogans on buildings owned by businesses, and other minor criminal damage. [4][5][6] At the beginning of the 1970s Cymdeithas began to campaign for a Welsh language radio and television service. Radio Cymru was established in 1977, but in 1979 the Conservative government announced in that it would not keep its election promise of the establishment of a separate Welsh language television channel. Some protesters refused to buy television licenses and others climbed up television masts and invaded television studios.[7]. S4C was finally launched in 1982.

Cymdeithas is a largely voluntary movement, which also employs three full-time members of staff at its head office in Aberystwyth, Ceredigion.

AlistairSim · 19/03/2008 15:56

Has anybody mentioned sheep yet?

beaniesteve · 19/03/2008 15:57

I have

MadameCh0let · 19/03/2008 16:35

You Welsh folks don't know how lucky you are. I was forced (that's the word I'm going to use) to learn Irish from 4 to 18. Entry in to third level university dependent on scraping a pass in the language. I can't believe that it's not rammed down your throat in Wales. You're lucky. It's a choice thing in Wales. It's learn Irish and do well in it or get a sh1t job here in Ireland. Ah democracy! could be worse, could be Rwanda or Zimbabwe, mustn't grumble.

AngharadGoldenhand · 19/03/2008 16:38

Just read this thread.

My sil and her dh have recently experienced the locals in a shop changing from speaking English to Welsh just because they entered the shop (and were speaking English).

Shame for the locals that sil speaks Welsh and knew how rude they were being.

YouKnowNothingOfTheCrunch · 19/03/2008 17:52

Right, am off to Wales on Friday for my annual "doing undignified things to sheep"athon.

Erm, it's not a choice in Wales, MC, it's a requirement.

(Did all her schooling in Welsh (by choice ) up to A Level)

YouKnowNothingOfTheCrunch · 19/03/2008 17:54

Yes there are arses in the world Angharad. Nothing to do with nationality, just to do with them being arses.

Just realised my previous post was just facts about me, really, and had nothing at all to do with the OP It's probably because I'm still drunk from last Saturday.

AlistairSim · 19/03/2008 18:44

Damn it, BeanieSteve!

I'll have to fall back on my leek jokes.

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