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Shakeylegs · 22/12/2023 20:48

Private landlords are parasites. They produce nothing. They extract rent for an asset that they did nothing to except buy.

We do need property for rent, but it should not be for profit. We should make being a private landlord as unappealing as possible, so that as many as possible sell up either to renters who wish to buy, or social landlords.

Beezknees · 22/12/2023 20:48

StragglyTinsel · 22/12/2023 20:46

I am loving the idea that local authorities are brilliant landlords (or were) and their tenants live in beautiful, well maintained homes in areas where everything is wonderful.

I’ve been a council tenant. It was a utopia. In fact, they were the worst landlord I’ve ever had. By quite a long way.

Oh yeah, I'm a social housing tenant. It's not utopia at all, but at least I know I'm not going to get turfed out at any point and the rent is a lot less than what a private landlord would charge, also the housing association people don't bother me, I can do what I want regarding decorating as well.

brainworms · 22/12/2023 20:49

StragglyTinsel · 22/12/2023 20:32

There will be another side to that story. The 8.5+% interest rates, for example.

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Oh diddums!

That's their own responsibility, not the tenants, and also why they like to kick people out when their can't afford their increases.

No sympathy at all. Get an extra job if it's that bad.

Riverlee · 22/12/2023 20:49

My initial thought when I heard about this that it would be one of many factors that would discourage landlords from continuing - mortgage interest rates, new energy requirements, tax changes etc being other factors.

brainworms · 22/12/2023 20:50

Marchitectmummy · 22/12/2023 20:31

The same could be said for any business.

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We're talking about landlords though, so don't try and derail.

Seymour5 · 22/12/2023 20:50

brainworms · 22/12/2023 20:29

@StragglyTinsel

Two of my friends have been given notice to vacate at THIS TIME OF YEAR, because their landlords wanted an extra £100 a month, and cos they can't afford it, they're now scrambling to find somewhere to live, one of which is severely disabled.

Both instances have come about because of essential repairs that the landlord should already be in a position to pay.

It's pure greed.

So yes, they are parasites.

Someone who is severely disabled should get priority for rehousing through the local authority where they live. I’d be looking into the options as soon as possible. Similarly over 60s also get priority. There’s a long thread about a 62 year old man living in a dreadful private rented flat who has been allocated a flat via his local council.

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DragonMama3 · 22/12/2023 20:51

ThomasinaLivesHere · 22/12/2023 20:27

I think it’s good to discourage landlords so don’t think it’s a bad thing.

Why?

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Riverlee · 22/12/2023 20:51

brainworms · 22/12/2023 20:49

Oh diddums!

That's their own responsibility, not the tenants, and also why they like to kick people out when their can't afford their increases.

No sympathy at all. Get an extra job if it's that bad.

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You could use the same argument say the renter should get an extra job to pay the increase…

BoPeepsSheep · 22/12/2023 20:51

Im🥴 at the perception that anyone can tell anyone else what to do with their property.

making ‘rules’ about what people can charge, capping rates etc.

Might as well go into marks and Spencer and tell them no, you can’t charge £6 for the box of chocolate eclairs. ‘We’ have capped the price.

Im not a landlord. It looks like a huge amount of work and stress, getting worse. I honestly couldn’t be bothered. As others have said, it’s the landlords with multiple properties who will remain in the market.

if some of you your way, these ‘parasites’ will all sell up. I don’t think that’s going to end well.

tenbob · 22/12/2023 20:54

Shadowsindarkplaces · 22/12/2023 20:26

Rentals should only be through councils and at social housing rates. Owners can let their property but in agreement with the council. There should be a limit on the number of properties someone can own. Rent should be capped.
All Rentals should be 'affordable' to someone working FT at NMW.

DH rented with his ex in around 1970, peppercorn rent, landlord were keeping an inherited property until their own DC grew up. All they wanted was enough to cover upkeep. DH, for years, believed all private rentals were this way and was horrified that we had to pay full rate around 30 years ago let alone Rentals costs now. Fortunately, we got a council house and so pay a sensible rent.
My vote will go to whichever party commits to large-scale council housing build.

That’s actual insanity. Surely your life experience can’t be so narrow that you think this is a good idea?

When I split up with my ex and wanted to move out of our nice house, I wanted an equally nice flat, not a basic bathroom laminate floor council flat

When my best friend moved back to the UK after a couple of years working abroad, she wanted a nice flat with a luxxy shower and massive kitchen she could host dinner parties while she looked to buy

When my doctor sibling was moved to a different part of the country and wanted to rent out their really nice and beautifully restored house, they didn’t want to rent it out via the council and had a lovely couple who were road testing the area and wanted something with lots of spare rooms to host family

brainworms · 22/12/2023 20:56

Riverlee · 22/12/2023 20:51

You could use the same argument say the renter should get an extra job to pay the increase…

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Bollocks.

The responsibility is with the landlord for rising costs. If they can't afford it, they could always sell their property rather than exploit tenants, and yes a tenant would still have to find somewhere new to live, but at least they won't be bled dry by a greedy parasite.

ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming · 22/12/2023 20:56

girlfriend44 · 22/12/2023 19:36

Landlords provide a service there isn't enough social housing, so where would we be without them renting out.

I'm sure some people are grateful to their landlords for a roof over their heads.

More and more landlords are selling up due to stress,bad tenants and the fact the interest rates on money is good

Seen it loads lately. My landlord is selling where Can I live?

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Well said. All this nonsense about landlords being parasites - like any other part of the community there are good and bad.

I've been renting for over 20 years, 19 in the one flat, and have had no issues. The flat I was in for so long was always intended to be the landlords' retirement home, so they re-decorated and put new carpet in, and a new bathroom, and the rent was low. Where I am now the landlords own all three flats, and while the rent is a bit more than what I paid previously it is still low - and we don't have any flat inspections!!!

People who can't, or don't want to, buy need somewhere to live.

queenofallqueens · 22/12/2023 20:56

Shakeylegs · 22/12/2023 20:48

Private landlords are parasites. They produce nothing. They extract rent for an asset that they did nothing to except buy.

We do need property for rent, but it should not be for profit. We should make being a private landlord as unappealing as possible, so that as many as possible sell up either to renters who wish to buy, or social landlords.

😂

They did nothing but to buy?

Trust me I did a lot to be able to buy. pay stamp duty for a second property. Maintain it. It is not a charity.

Sell up to renters. hilarious

brainworms · 22/12/2023 20:58

Riverlee · 22/12/2023 20:51

You could use the same argument say the renter should get an extra job to pay the increase…

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Bollocks.

The responsibility is with the landlord for rising costs. If they can't afford it, they could always sell their property rather than exploit tenants, and yes a tenant would still have to find somewhere new to live, but at least they won't be bled dry by a greedy parasite.

Gallowayan · 22/12/2023 20:58

When the supply of rental properties shrinks the cost of rent goes up. This trend became ore noticeable after lockdown. The Air B and B market has taken out a lot of capacity IMO. Together with harder conditions for landlords. Renting a house is no different from hiring a car or staying in a hotel and landlords are providing a useful service and deserve to have their property respected.

Beezknees · 22/12/2023 20:59

Gallowayan · 22/12/2023 20:58

When the supply of rental properties shrinks the cost of rent goes up. This trend became ore noticeable after lockdown. The Air B and B market has taken out a lot of capacity IMO. Together with harder conditions for landlords. Renting a house is no different from hiring a car or staying in a hotel and landlords are providing a useful service and deserve to have their property respected.

Of course it's different than hiring a car or a hotel. What a stupid comparison! Nobody NEEDS to stay in a hotel, people NEED somewhere to live.

brainworms · 22/12/2023 21:00

Seymour5 · 22/12/2023 20:50

Someone who is severely disabled should get priority for rehousing through the local authority where they live. I’d be looking into the options as soon as possible. Similarly over 60s also get priority. There’s a long thread about a 62 year old man living in a dreadful private rented flat who has been allocated a flat via his local council.

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You're absolutely right, they should have access to priority housing, but it's scarce and has massive waiting lists.

Which is why many vulnerable people end up at the mercy of parasites.

ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming · 22/12/2023 21:02

Babyroobs · 22/12/2023 20:02

Agree totally.

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Grow up!

Seymour5 · 22/12/2023 21:03

brainworms · 22/12/2023 21:00

You're absolutely right, they should have access to priority housing, but it's scarce and has massive waiting lists.

Which is why many vulnerable people end up at the mercy of parasites.

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Might be worth talking to Shelter?

brainworms · 22/12/2023 21:07

Seymour5 · 22/12/2023 21:03

Might be worth talking to Shelter?

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They're seriously overwhelmed. We have a major housing crisis here, and because parasitic landlords don't like anyone claiming benefits, it's hard to find somewhere for so many people.

TravelInHope · 22/12/2023 21:11

I have a BTL in Cambridge. I rent to overseas post-docs. They don’t want to buy a house in cambridge. I’m not a parasite.

SwordToFlamethrower · 22/12/2023 21:12

Hope so!

brainworms · 22/12/2023 21:14

@TravelInHope sell your house and you could stop being a parasite.

NeonSoda · 22/12/2023 21:15

brainworms · 22/12/2023 21:14

@TravelInHope sell your house and you could stop being a parasite.

Where would visiting post docs live?

TravelInHope · 22/12/2023 21:17

brainworms · 22/12/2023 21:14

@TravelInHope sell your house and you could stop being a parasite.

Pure gibberish. Go and lie down.