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To think people don't care about covid anymore?

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MumofLandD · 19/12/2023 10:57

That really. Quick straw poll on that.
DS (13) tested positive this morning after I had a very faint positive this morning. I tested because I had a sore throat all night and 6 days til Christmas I wanted to check. We have Xmas dinner at the ex's families planned and 3 others going are vulnerable.
I also test when feeling unwell as I am a front line health care worker and work with cancer patients and other vulnerable people. Although my hospitals policy is if you test positive and feel well enough to come to work then you are allowed to work, I morally disagree with this.
I co parent with ex partner, he is due to have DS tomorrow for the rest of the week and he thinks DS can go to school tomorrow if he feels better whereas I disagree. DS's best friend is spending Xmas with his 90 year old grandmother and I would hate for him to pass it on to her. Plus who else will he come in contact with at school who have plans like that? Ex partner is of the opinion that vunerable people are fine if they are vaccinated but I don't believe so. Not sure if I am still traumatised by the sights I saw in the first wave.
Interestingly when I asked XP if he was happy for our son to sit next to his mother at the table, if he was still positive, who is vulnerable but vaccinated he said no. 🙄

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Benibidibici · 19/12/2023 20:53

NandJ you are bonkers. Most people recover from even long covid within 6 months.

That article you linked, the study has many flaws. The group they studied consisted of people who got covid in 2020 & 21 and reported to medical clinic. So before you start you have self selected the most symptomatic people and disregarded the significant proportion of people who suffer no or low symptoms.

Then it relies on self reporting of systems that are vague/unquantifiable and not separable from other non covid factors (eg fatigue).

it results in massive over estimation of the proportion of people who have long lasting, clinically detectable symptoms of long covid.

Goodlard · 19/12/2023 20:55

Has the Covid board been closed?

Coolstorysis · 19/12/2023 20:58

I agree with the never cared about it. It was clear early on that it was just another corona virus, the propoganda was so full on though, feels like a dream.

I usually hate stupid sayings but "it's easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled" applies quite well.

People wank on about long covid and what not. Investigate functional illness, it exists. Post viral illnesses have also been a thing long before covid.

RoseAndRose · 19/12/2023 21:00

Goodlard · 19/12/2023 20:55

Has the Covid board been closed?

No, but things do sometimes leak out in to other topics - for example there are currently a fair few trans threads outside the topic today

(And loads of other examples)

If I was Queen of MN for the day, one thing I'd do is tidy everything in to its proper topic. But RL MN ain't like that

healthadvice123 · 19/12/2023 21:05

@Benibidibici they are on another thread telling someone to isolate for 10 days because they were a close contact so obviously someone who can easily work from home or afford unpaid leave, or to loose a job as i can imagine in many jobs telling them you won’t be in for 10 days s your friend had covid is not going to go down well.
all these studies also contradict each otger and the reality is we don’t know enough yet, especially how new strains will affect u s thats years away. But many of us will get covid multiple timea for years to come and not a lot that can be done. Lockdowns didn’t stop it either

NAndJSaysVoteConservative · 19/12/2023 21:06

Benibidibici · 19/12/2023 20:53

NandJ you are bonkers. Most people recover from even long covid within 6 months.

That article you linked, the study has many flaws. The group they studied consisted of people who got covid in 2020 & 21 and reported to medical clinic. So before you start you have self selected the most symptomatic people and disregarded the significant proportion of people who suffer no or low symptoms.

Then it relies on self reporting of systems that are vague/unquantifiable and not separable from other non covid factors (eg fatigue).

it results in massive over estimation of the proportion of people who have long lasting, clinically detectable symptoms of long covid.

So the study excludes those with no or low symptoms who went on to develop Long Covid. I'd say that cancels your hypothesis of overestimation out.

bakewellbride · 19/12/2023 21:09

I have never^^ cared about covid so I guess I'm in the 'no morals' camp.

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 21:15

bakewellbride · 19/12/2023 21:09

I have never^^ cared about covid so I guess I'm in the 'no morals' camp.

Maybe when someone in your family gets cancer or your child develops an autoimmune condition that results in them having low immunity, you'll get it. Odds are one of those eventually affects every family. Then don't complain if others are inconsiderate about their life.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 19/12/2023 21:15

they are on another thread telling someone to isolate for 10 days because they were a close contact so obviously someone who can easily work from home or afford unpaid leave, or to loose a job as i can imagine in many jobs telling them you won’t be in for 10 days s your friend had covid is not going to go down well.

It feels like we're going back to 2020 at times. I've got a cold, tested negative for Covid and yes I'm working from home but I know I'm lucky to be able to do so. I certainly wouldn't be isolating if I knew someone with Covid!

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 21:16

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 19/12/2023 21:15

they are on another thread telling someone to isolate for 10 days because they were a close contact so obviously someone who can easily work from home or afford unpaid leave, or to loose a job as i can imagine in many jobs telling them you won’t be in for 10 days s your friend had covid is not going to go down well.

It feels like we're going back to 2020 at times. I've got a cold, tested negative for Covid and yes I'm working from home but I know I'm lucky to be able to do so. I certainly wouldn't be isolating if I knew someone with Covid!

My DH is currently working from home as Covid is going through his workplace. He's lucky he can though. Not everyone can and that's unfortunately just how it is. People still need to earn a living.

NAndJSaysVoteConservative · 19/12/2023 21:17

bakewellbride · 19/12/2023 21:09

I have never^^ cared about covid so I guess I'm in the 'no morals' camp.

Aren't you a bloody delight?

XenoBitch · 19/12/2023 21:18

I have had two friends recently meet with me, all full of snot and lung butter. Both have tested positive for Covid (one had MS and is CEV) and are still just getting on with life.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 19/12/2023 21:20

I care! I’m immunosuppressed and on week 4 of covid despite vax and anti-virals. My heart has been seriously affected this time. I test at symptoms and mask up as much as I can.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/12/2023 21:23

I have it and am staying indoors. But I think vulnerable people need to take responsibility these days and only attend social occasions if they want to risk it or if they have asked everyone to test

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/12/2023 21:24

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/12/2023 21:23

I have it and am staying indoors. But I think vulnerable people need to take responsibility these days and only attend social occasions if they want to risk it or if they have asked everyone to test

How nice to condem them to a life of isolation and loneliness.

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 21:26

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/12/2023 21:24

How nice to condem them to a life of isolation and loneliness.

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Yet that's what we are currently doing. We just hope others are considerate enough to let us know if they are going somewhere sick, so we have the opportunity to stay home, or wear a mask out to try to contain their germs in public. You can't avoid everywhere.

I sure hope Karma is a thing.

Goodlard · 19/12/2023 21:28

@endlessdarkness karma is not a thing.

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 21:30

Goodlard · 19/12/2023 21:28

@endlessdarkness karma is not a thing.

I can still wish it was.

TotteringByRosie · 19/12/2023 21:31

The most vulnerable categories are still offered a vaccination to protect them against Covid. For most of the rest of the population Covid is just a virus like cold or flu.

EasternStandard · 19/12/2023 21:33

There will still be loads of asymptomatic transmission so loads of people won’t know they have it anyway.

christmaspaws · 19/12/2023 21:33

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/12/2023 21:23

I have it and am staying indoors. But I think vulnerable people need to take responsibility these days and only attend social occasions if they want to risk it or if they have asked everyone to test

But people are refusing to stay home with covid and yet saying vulnerable should stay home.. they can't contemplate doing it for a week and some people are vulnerable for life

I've pretty much accepted social stuff in winter is a no, I'm not going out with family for Christmas, staying home alone Christmas Day, reasonable adjustment to WFH, but yeah it's hard. Especially when people could stay home but don't and say "oh I couldn't stay in for that long, we just have to get out and get on with it"

XenoBitch · 19/12/2023 21:33

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 21:30

I can still wish it was.

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And I can guarantee your mild cold you had pre-Covid would have put a vulnerable person in hospital.
But no one cared then.

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 21:34

TotteringByRosie · 19/12/2023 21:31

The most vulnerable categories are still offered a vaccination to protect them against Covid. For most of the rest of the population Covid is just a virus like cold or flu.

It doesn't stop you getting Covid or needing antivirals, or still getting very sick.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/12/2023 21:35

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow no not condemning them to loneliness. Encouraging them to ask people who they're seeing to check that it's safe for them.

It's like people with nut alleggies need to check with their host what's in the food not expect everyone to not eat nuts in case there's an allergic person around.

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 21:36

XenoBitch · 19/12/2023 21:33

And I can guarantee your mild cold you had pre-Covid would have put a vulnerable person in hospital.
But no one cared then.

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You're wrong. People with cancer or compromised immune systems still cared. They relied on people to inform them or just stayed home as much as possible. That hasn't changed from what it was before Covid. It's not any different for those people, it just adds another virus to be concerned about. People should have always been considerate about that sort of thing.

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