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To think people don't care about covid anymore?

246 replies

MumofLandD · 19/12/2023 10:57

That really. Quick straw poll on that.
DS (13) tested positive this morning after I had a very faint positive this morning. I tested because I had a sore throat all night and 6 days til Christmas I wanted to check. We have Xmas dinner at the ex's families planned and 3 others going are vulnerable.
I also test when feeling unwell as I am a front line health care worker and work with cancer patients and other vulnerable people. Although my hospitals policy is if you test positive and feel well enough to come to work then you are allowed to work, I morally disagree with this.
I co parent with ex partner, he is due to have DS tomorrow for the rest of the week and he thinks DS can go to school tomorrow if he feels better whereas I disagree. DS's best friend is spending Xmas with his 90 year old grandmother and I would hate for him to pass it on to her. Plus who else will he come in contact with at school who have plans like that? Ex partner is of the opinion that vunerable people are fine if they are vaccinated but I don't believe so. Not sure if I am still traumatised by the sights I saw in the first wave.
Interestingly when I asked XP if he was happy for our son to sit next to his mother at the table, if he was still positive, who is vulnerable but vaccinated he said no. 🙄

OP posts:
starsparkle08 · 19/12/2023 13:58

Really have never cared about covid . Far worse things in life to worry about and the amount of mental health issues have been exhaberated or caused by covid is a lot .

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 19/12/2023 14:21

I've got a cold now. I tested because DH was seeing my elderly family but both tests were negative so the only change I've made is to work from home as no one wants my germs! If I need to go anywhere I might test again but unless I do I'll just act like I've always done with a cold. No doubt DH will get it but there's not a lot I can do about that.

CornishGem1975 · 19/12/2023 14:22

@19lottie82

  1. You said the government advice was to isolate - it's not.
  2. The advice from the NHS states if you don't feel unwell or have a temperature you can go back to your normal activities.

I mean, it's in black and white.

To think people don't care about covid anymore?
To think people don't care about covid anymore?
Grapewrath · 19/12/2023 14:25

I honestly don’t think about Covid anymore.
if I have a cold type virus I carry on as normal. If I feel too unwell to work I don’t go. I haven’t tested for Covid in about 2 years

Grapewrath · 19/12/2023 14:29

Sorry posted too soon. When I did have Covid I felt ok so I wouldn’t know if I’m inadvertently spreading it. Same as any other illness.
I just think we should get on with our lives

Movinghouseatlast · 19/12/2023 15:13

TheKeatingFive · 19/12/2023 13:48

I did. I might draw your attention to this bit

But this does not mean you are more likely to become critically ill or need hospital treatment.
A different part of our immune system - called T-cells - kick in once an infection is already under way and they have been trained by past infections and vaccines.
T-cells are less easily befuddled by mutating viruses as they spot cells that have been infected with Covid and kill them.

Yes, that's what I said.

RafaistheKingofClay · 19/12/2023 17:27

TheKeatingFive · 19/12/2023 13:32

I added a link to an article which explains that yes, the vaccination has worn off now. So this is the reason people are 'floored' by it.

We were in lockdown in 2020 because the health system could not cope with the impact. Care to explain why that's not the case now?

All you need is a functioning brain to figure out that no, the vaccines have not 'worn off'.

Who says it’s coping now? The number of ambulances we have queuing outside ED seems to be directly related to where we are in the cycle of Covid waves. I doubt most people waiting hrs and hrs in ED to be seen or for a bed would agree that the health system was working well.

Pourmeanotherwine · 19/12/2023 18:45

I tested positive this morning. Feel crap. Started with diarrhoea then turned into a heavy cold. I was planning to meet vulnerable relatives in a couple of days so decided to test and have now cancelled. Was off work this week anyway as booked a few days to hang out with student DDs who are home for Christmas. I think I got it from DD2 who came home on a very busy train.

RoseAndRose · 19/12/2023 20:06

RafaistheKingofClay · 19/12/2023 17:27

Who says it’s coping now? The number of ambulances we have queuing outside ED seems to be directly related to where we are in the cycle of Covid waves. I doubt most people waiting hrs and hrs in ED to be seen or for a bed would agree that the health system was working well.

Which is not great, as JN.1 has arrived and is rising fast

Making hospitals the most risky place the highly vulnerable have to visit really is up there in the top crap government decisions about covid

Teentrauma · 19/12/2023 20:07

Meh. I haven't tested in over 2 years, don't have any tests and certainly won't be buying any. I'm acting as I did pre-pandemic - if I have a cold like illness and I feel OK will go about my business as usual, avoiding anyone who is elderly or vulnerable as I would before. The pandemic is over, covid will probably always be around so we just need to get on with it. There's been a spate of people on my social media posting pics of their positive tests. Why???

NAndJSaysVoteConservative · 19/12/2023 20:27

The majority of the country never cared about Covid, unfortunately.

JN.1 is the fastest spreading Variant to date and no one is even wearing a mask. I despair.

NAndJSaysVoteConservative · 19/12/2023 20:30

CornishGem1975 · 19/12/2023 11:16

Current NHS advice is if you have no temperature and you feel well enough you can carry on.

I have covid right now and I've pretty much carried on as normal other than cancelling a meal with friends which would be in very close contact and a beauty treatment as I didn't want to give anyone an illness before Christmas but other than that it's business as usual as I still have to work and kids still have to go to school.

And that so-called "advice" is the reason why cases are still sky high.

You can traipse around infecting all and sundry and get off scot free.

NotMYChild · 19/12/2023 20:32

I had Covid end Nov. Been sick ever since. People aren’t vaccinated now generally so symptoms seem to be worse. We need to protect the elderly still.

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 20:33

Not worrying about Covid is a luxury and I think most people don't. Those of us with very vulnerable family members in our household still have to worry about it. I test if in doubt because of the need to get antivirals early enough.

I don't care if someone decides they are still going to go out with it but I expect them to let me know, so I can decide to stay home to protect my family member. If they don't, because everyone in my circle knows the issue, that friendship is over immediately. Anyone who inconsiderately puts my family member's life at risk is no friend. They can't say they don't know.

If you must go out with Covid or flu at least wear a good mask. Some people's lives depend on people not being selfish.

NAndJSaysVoteConservative · 19/12/2023 20:38

Sunshineguy · 19/12/2023 13:05

With research from Canada, America and China showing the risk of serious long covid increases with each reinfection, there will come a day when a lot of people will regret every time they caught Covid. Sorry to be a downer but the evidence is overwhelming now.

Bingo. I did some simple maths a while back:

It's reasonable enough to assume that the average individual will get Covid approximately twice a year.

With each infection giving you a 37% chance of Long Covid (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/25/health/long-covid-risk-factors.html), that gives you a probability of 1 - (1 - 0.37)^2 = 0.603 of getting Long Covid by the end of the year.

Extend that to two years and the probability is 1 - (1 - 0.37)^4 = 0.842.

We're fucked.

Tanktanktank · 19/12/2023 20:38

MumofLandD · 19/12/2023 11:22

This is what bothers me in part- I don't have to test for my job, but morally I do

And thank you OP for doing that. As a relative of a blood cancer patient who can’t have their chemo if they’ve got Covid I am still partially shielding, we risk assess everything we do, we try to be outgoing and have a life but it can be a struggle.

I get it that it’s over for a lot of people but it’s not over in my family.

tiggergoesbounce · 19/12/2023 20:39

The hospital close to us do, as we cant visit due to covid outbreak.

WildFlowerBees · 19/12/2023 20:40

I was ill for 2 weeks, people who say Covid is just a cold or it's no big deal are quite ignorant. I'm healthy vaccinated etc but I was floored by it. Long term effects are a real thing not made up by tin hatters.

I wouldn't want to knowingly pass it on, similarly I wouldn't want to pass a cold or anything else. There are some who are blinded by selfishness, until it's them or their family member.

EasternStandard · 19/12/2023 20:44

Grapewrath · 19/12/2023 14:25

I honestly don’t think about Covid anymore.
if I have a cold type virus I carry on as normal. If I feel too unwell to work I don’t go. I haven’t tested for Covid in about 2 years

Same here. We don’t test.

Benibidibici · 19/12/2023 20:46

I find it a sad reflection of today’s times that it seems to be the general concensus that “ if the elderly or those with compromised immune systems die- that's life

Well the very elderly do have quite the habit of dying, covid or otherwise. Many people at that stage of life have very much come to terms with dying, have lost beloved spouses & friends and are honestly ready to go with grace. My grandparents all were. A timely death is a blessing.

TheKeatingFive · 19/12/2023 20:47

It's reasonable enough to assume that the average individual will get Covid approximately twice a year.

Is it? That would mean the average person has had it 6/7 times by now. I don't know a single person who's had it that many times.

endlessdarkness · 19/12/2023 20:47

Benibidibici · 19/12/2023 20:46

I find it a sad reflection of today’s times that it seems to be the general concensus that “ if the elderly or those with compromised immune systems die- that's life

Well the very elderly do have quite the habit of dying, covid or otherwise. Many people at that stage of life have very much come to terms with dying, have lost beloved spouses & friends and are honestly ready to go with grace. My grandparents all were. A timely death is a blessing.

Some of those people who are going to die from Covid are children, teens, young adults. Their death would not be timely and could be prevented if just one person decides to be considerate.

healthadvice123 · 19/12/2023 20:50

Many don’t care when its them that have it and need to go out but do care when others have it is how it seems.
dh and ds2 have now and we think ds1 may of had it as was ill first but didn’t test as stayed home. Dh tested as had some symptoms and meeting someone vunerable. Then ds2 got ill tested on sunday when new tests arrived but felt ill sat night. They have isolated but DS is due to go out and stay away friday but guidelines are 5 days after test if you take one, but if not and have symptoms just until you feel well.
ds illness lasted one day he had a temp, evening before he tested positive he developed a sore throat and was sneezing.
so now unsure if he can go out friday - do we go from test date or symptoms.
so it seems like your better off not testing as the guidelines are totally different so people are also out and about as the rules are a mess.

Lesina · 19/12/2023 20:50

Never really cared about it. Other than the horrific damage the lockdowns did to the nations mental health and children’s education. Care even less now.

NAndJSaysVoteConservative · 19/12/2023 20:51

TheKeatingFive · 19/12/2023 20:47

It's reasonable enough to assume that the average individual will get Covid approximately twice a year.

Is it? That would mean the average person has had it 6/7 times by now. I don't know a single person who's had it that many times.

Are they testing? A lot of people are catching Covid and not realising that it is actually Covid, because they are not testing.

And with JN.1, the most infectious Variant to date, having arrived, the likelihood of repeated infection is just going to go up and up.

Edited to add the word "of" to the second paragraph.