Page 10 | To think people don't care about covid anymore?

MumofLandD · 2023-12-19T10:57:42+00:00

That really. Quick straw poll on that. DS (13) tested positive this morning after I had a very faint positive this morning. I tested because I had a sore throat all night and 6 days til Christmas I wanted to check. We have Xmas dinner at the ex's families planned and 3 others going are vulnerable. I also test when feeling unwell as I am a front line health care worker and work with cancer patients and other vulnerable people. Although my hospitals policy is if you test positive and feel well enough to come to work then you are allowed to work, I morally disagree with this. I co parent with ex partner, he is due to have DS tomorrow for the rest of the week and he thinks DS can go to school tomorrow if he feels better whereas I disagree. DS's best friend is spending Xmas with his 90 year old grandmother and I would hate for him to pass it on to her. Plus who else will he come in contact with at school who have plans like that? Ex partner is of the opinion that vunerable people are fine if they are vaccinated but I don't believe so. Not sure if I am still traumatised by the sights I saw in the first wave. Interestingly when I asked XP if he was happy for our son to sit next to his mother at the table, if he was still positive, who is vulnerable but vaccinated he said no. 🙄

MaybeSmaller · 21/12/2023 12:42

YANBU to think that, but it's justified.

Most people have no reason to care specifically about Covid anymore, and the vaccines have massively reduced risk for all but the most extremely vulnerable, who are still advised to take extra precautions. Better treatments and even better vaccines will improve outcomes even for them, in time.

We shouldn't be going in to work when sick and spreading it around. But a vast percentage of the population has no choice and only a total reform of sick pay and employer attitudes towards sickness would solve it.

Frankly, if I was in my 90s, I would want to live life as much as possible and see family and friends in the time I have left. What is the point of the vaccines if I can't live life normally? What's the alternative - shut myself away in the hope that things are better when I'm in my 100s?

ScarlettSunset · 21/12/2023 12:53

I still test if I feel unwell and take it seriously. So do several other people I know. In our cases though, we all have elderly or vulnerable people in our lives that we wouldn't want to pass it on to (wouldn't want to pass on a cold either to be fair). I would also want to know if it's Covid in case I personally ended up suffering with long Covid symptoms.

It doesn't really affect my life on a day to day basis though. I would just keep to myself if I had it (I know I'm fortunate to be able to WFH if need be, which isn't the case for everyone).

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 21/12/2023 14:54

@VanityDiesHard I didn't spread flu around either..Colds, maybe.

healthadvice123 · 21/12/2023 16:07

@marmaladeandpeanutbutter know way of knowing for sure what you have , yes usually flu is worse than a cold but not always. Best thing is when coughing and sneezing a lot stay home and away from vulnerable people and more likely to spread or feell v unwell, thats all we will be doing from now on. No more testing just being mindful

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/12/2023 16:46

I care about it. Ive got it right now! I was meant to be going on holiday today and I haven’t gone - I mean I don’t feel well enough to fly but also wouldn’t have felt right getting on a plane with it.

I generally test if I think I might have it because it’s very contagious and I don’t want to pass it on.

The kids currently haven’t got it. They’re due to go to their dads (meant to go yesterday) but this way we’ve given their step mum and baby time to go to her parents (localish) til we’re sure the kids are clear.

WolfFoxHare · 21/12/2023 16:51

I had covid pretty mildly two years ago. I’d had two vaccines by then. No fever, not too bad of a cough. I’ve had much worse colds, but I have been left with asthma as a result. However, I’m still living my life as I did pre pandemic (admittedly while wheezing in winter). I don’t want to live in fear.

Singlespies · 21/12/2023 16:55

It depends on the type of work and who you mix with, rather. Half my London colleagues have a cold of some sort. We still all went out for a Christmas dinner. But, then, in London, people mix so much that it's just part of life. When I sit on a train with hundreds of people coughing I do think - I wonder if I will be ill - but it's just part of life. People have to keep the world going; many people's jobs are critical to the lives of others.

Twicemother · 21/12/2023 16:56

If I or the kids have a cold its a cold, could be covid but that's it.

With regards to elderly, vulnerable, I would avoid them even with a cold. So no direct contact, but secondary or any other cross contamination is not something I don't worry about anymore.

Im strict about hand washing regularly especially when we've been out in public and before eating, touching face, mouth etc.

VanityDiesHard · 21/12/2023 18:29

WolfFoxHare · 21/12/2023 16:51

I had covid pretty mildly two years ago. I’d had two vaccines by then. No fever, not too bad of a cough. I’ve had much worse colds, but I have been left with asthma as a result. However, I’m still living my life as I did pre pandemic (admittedly while wheezing in winter). I don’t want to live in fear.

Quite right, too. I think a lot of this is about attitude of mind. I'm not saying that mind over matter is what makes the difference to the body (although to be fair, I do think there is a certain amount of truth in that!) but that even if you have lasting symptoms, you are of the attitude that it is what it is and to live your life. I had Covid back in September and it wasn't fun, it took me a bit of time to recover. But I'm not going around wringing my hands and demanding that everyone isolate/mask up. It's just too much and we had enough of it in 2020.

nether · 21/12/2023 22:21

VanityDiesHard · 21/12/2023 18:29

Quite right, too. I think a lot of this is about attitude of mind. I'm not saying that mind over matter is what makes the difference to the body (although to be fair, I do think there is a certain amount of truth in that!) but that even if you have lasting symptoms, you are of the attitude that it is what it is and to live your life. I had Covid back in September and it wasn't fun, it took me a bit of time to recover. But I'm not going around wringing my hands and demanding that everyone isolate/mask up. It's just too much and we had enough of it in 2020.

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This post is staggering.

I find it hard to credit that someone can really think that things which make you vulnerable to Covid - such as cancer - are down to attitude. Or that it’s OK to shut other people away because it’s too much of an imposition to have clean air even in hospitals. Or that disabling became OK after 2020 because I’m all right Jack

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/12/2023 22:44

*VanityDiesHard · Today 18:29

Quite right, too. I think a lot of this is about attitude of mind. I'm not saying that mind over matter is what makes the difference to the body (although to be fair, I do think there is a certain amount of truth in that!) but that even if you have lasting symptoms, you are of the attitude that it is what it is and to live your life. I had Covid back in September and it wasn't fun, it took me a bit of time to recover. But I'm not going around wringing my hands and demanding that everyone isolate/mask up. It's just too much and we had enough of it in 2020.*

Just fuck off. I’m too weak to walk or even breathe properly. It’s not much of a life to live tbh. It’s fuck all to do with attitude and everything to do with being infected. On top of a vaccine injury no less. My body just shut down, but yeah I’ll try and live my life as you suggest.

Because to get Covid on top of horrific Long Covid after catching Covid on top of two severe vaccine injuries would just be the cherry on the cake. But it’s just attitude isn’t it?

VanityDiesHard · 21/12/2023 22:49

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/12/2023 22:44

*VanityDiesHard · Today 18:29

Quite right, too. I think a lot of this is about attitude of mind. I'm not saying that mind over matter is what makes the difference to the body (although to be fair, I do think there is a certain amount of truth in that!) but that even if you have lasting symptoms, you are of the attitude that it is what it is and to live your life. I had Covid back in September and it wasn't fun, it took me a bit of time to recover. But I'm not going around wringing my hands and demanding that everyone isolate/mask up. It's just too much and we had enough of it in 2020.*

Just fuck off. I’m too weak to walk or even breathe properly. It’s not much of a life to live tbh. It’s fuck all to do with attitude and everything to do with being infected. On top of a vaccine injury no less. My body just shut down, but yeah I’ll try and live my life as you suggest.

Because to get Covid on top of horrific Long Covid after catching Covid on top of two severe vaccine injuries would just be the cherry on the cake. But it’s just attitude isn’t it?

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Well, I'm sorry for you, but pissing and moaning at other people isn't really a good use of your limited energy, now is it?

DumboHimalayan · 21/12/2023 22:52

VanityDiesHard · 21/12/2023 22:49

Well, I'm sorry for you, but pissing and moaning at other people isn't really a good use of your limited energy, now is it?

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That's got to be one of the cuntiest responses I've ever seen on MN.

ChilledToTheBone · 21/12/2023 22:53

Nope. Haven't since end of LD1.
Ive been dog rough ill this week. Haven't tested because even if positive, i still had stuff i couldn't not do. So would make no difference.

VanityDiesHard · 21/12/2023 22:53

DumboHimalayan · 21/12/2023 22:52

That's got to be one of the cuntiest responses I've ever seen on MN.

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So was the post it was in response to. This is the same poster who started the ridiculous thread about nits as a gotcha because she is angry that we aren't still all living like it's 2020. I'm so over these people.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/12/2023 22:55

VanityDiesHard · 21/12/2023 22:49

Well, I'm sorry for you, but pissing and moaning at other people isn't really a good use of your limited energy, now is it?

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Shows you how fucking unfeeling you are. Was worth my limited energy.

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/12/2023 23:20

VanityDiesHard · 21/12/2023 22:49

Well, I'm sorry for you, but pissing and moaning at other people isn't really a good use of your limited energy, now is it?

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Good grief. Have you had an empathy bypass?

CouchCat · 21/12/2023 23:28

@VanityDiesHard

So was the post it was in response to. This is the same poster who started the ridiculous thread about nits as a gotcha because she is angry that we aren't still all living like it's 2020. I'm so over these people.

Here's a strategy for you: don't open threads that might bother you. If you do happen to open one, simply don't reply. Okay?

echt · 22/12/2023 00:04

Well, I'm sorry for you, but pissing and moaning at other people isn't really a good use of your limited energy, now is it?

It's the "sorry" followed by "but" that tells you all you need to know that the poster isn't sorry at all. As Ned Stark said: "Everything before "but" is horse shit (or a similar word)".

KylieJennersMakeUpSponge · 22/12/2023 00:22

So o was very anti-lockdown (after the initial 3 weeks) and I think the long term damage of locking down children and vulnerable people will be felt for a good decade.

But I am confused about how 3 years ago we were all shitting ourselves and not standing with 2m of people if we had a cough. Now - we can actually test positive for COVID and HCPs can go into work with the virus that, not so long ago, was considered so risky that you couldn’t stand within 6 feet if you simply had symptoms. Not everyone is jabbed and many are still vulnerable. I don’t know how we’ve done a 180!

x2boys · 22/12/2023 06:20

KylieJennersMakeUpSponge · 22/12/2023 00:22

So o was very anti-lockdown (after the initial 3 weeks) and I think the long term damage of locking down children and vulnerable people will be felt for a good decade.

But I am confused about how 3 years ago we were all shitting ourselves and not standing with 2m of people if we had a cough. Now - we can actually test positive for COVID and HCPs can go into work with the virus that, not so long ago, was considered so risky that you couldn’t stand within 6 feet if you simply had symptoms. Not everyone is jabbed and many are still vulnerable. I don’t know how we’ve done a 180!

Because its not a novel virus anymore
Many people are vaccinated
Lots of people have had Covid
The symptoms of not as bad as they were

Treatment, s are better .