Adults who don't dress properly for winter

[Bearpawk]

Driving me mad.
I work in an office where must people have a commute or a decent walk to get to work . I'd say about 90% can't dress themselves properly.
Young woman next to me ankle trainer socks. Midriff showing. Pissing and moaning about being cold. It's 1 degree outside and it's December.
It's raining and they come in wearing canvas shoes and a fluffy coat. No umbrella or waterproofs. Then expect to have the heating on full whack all day to dry their coats and shoes out.
In a training room all day where the lead trainer (middle aged, old enough to know better) insisted on having the heating cranked up all day because she's wearing a thin acrylic jumper and got cold to the bones on the way to work and can't warm up.
Everyone without exception has access to the weather forecast via their phones. It shouldn't be a shock when it's raining or cold. Yet they dress like it's May, all year round.
They earn decent money and aren't hard up so it's not a financial issue (maybe with some of the VERY junior/ young ones fair enough )

AIBU to fed up of people moaning about being cold or wet but making zero attempt to dress appropriately for the weather ?

Lolll i don't dress appropriately for winter as i hate massive coats and boots, but I don't moan about being cold

My mum had four kids under 10 and didn’t know if she was coming or going half the time, so no, she didn’t. And whatever clothes we got were polyester tat from supermarkets. Shoes were worn until they fell off your feet. I’m not complaining, it’s how it was.

What is it with all the jolly hockeysticks today who simply cannot comprehend that some people had to learn the skill of dressing for the weather by themselves, as an adult?

I absolutely was! I bought amazingly warm men's wool coats from charity shops and always had a good pair of boots (xmas presents). It only takes 2 minutes to figure out you'll be cold in a crop top in the middle of winter. Not years.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20160617-the-never-ending-battle-over-the-best-office-temperature#:~:text=So%20what%20is%20the%20best,F)%2C%20according%20to%20Shipworth.

From the TUC

Crying 😂😂😂😂

Keep in mind that people run on different temperatures. It was 2 degrees here today and I was out in a thin long sleeved t shirt because I just don't feel the cold. The only time I ever have was when pregnant or severely underweight but at a healthy weight it takes a lot to need layers or heating and I hate feeling too hot, it makes me sick / dizzy.

Central heating has made people oblivious to the seasons, in the same way that barely anyone understands the seasonality of fruit and veg anymore, given so much is flown in from around the world.

Jesus… it was a joke based on the fact that mum’s for a millennium have been telling their kids to put on a coat. Sorry maybe I should have made the winky emoji 4x the size.

And you also seemed to missed the fact the fact that I did the same in my 20’s. to be fair I edited to add that was my personal experience…so maybe in your zeal to jump on me you missed that edit.

Oh well…

YANBU. Our office is always freezing in the Winter on a Monday. Other days are fine but Mondays are cold. So I put extra layers in under my work clothes and it doesn't bother me.

Work with the sane staff week in, week out, most of whom have worked many winters in the sane building so know that it's cold on a Monday and arrive in short sleeve tops, lightweight trousers and shoes which barely cover their feet then spend all day moaning and it's all ages.

Be that as it may, there’s absolutely no need to say that young people basically aren’t known for having common sense

Perhaps you need to spend all day moaning how extra heat is so drying on the skin.

Do ‘they’?

I don’t wear a waterproof jacket and I don’t moan. I also manage to not feel cold, even though I don’t wear wool jumpers and thermal undies. We don’t live in Canada, we don’t need to go mad with the technical gear just to stay warm and dry.

Winter is bad enough as it is, let’s not make it more miserable by insisting that everyone dresses like every other person they see.

Personally I overheat very easily due to meds that I’m on. So, wearing thermals/big jacket etc means that I end up sweating in the walk into the office

YABU. Clothes are expensive! We get every sort of weather in the UK and you need loads of clothes (not to mention storage space) to be kitted out for each one. And maybe they have lots of money, but smart workwear is not exactly cheap.
I am on a decent salary and in my late 30s and struggle to afford weather-appropriate workwear all year round.

'No such thing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothing' (Wainwright). The science of keeping well insulated and therefore warm is not difficult to understand with a little grasp of principles.
Young girls/women don't want to look bulky _ so wear a close fitting cami, preferably with some silk or merino wool as the fibre. The nature of the fibres traps little pockets of air which is what insulates. Tuck the bottom edge into waistband to stop air escaping. Jumper on top - again close fitting is best. These chunky knit, oversized jumpers will def not keep you warm.
It is possible to buy fleecy lined tights that you might also wear under trousers if they're not too tight. I also found regular leggings made my legs feel colder (no insulation!)
Apart from newer fibres used in performance clothing, wool is the best:
it can hold it's weight in water and not feel wet.
In fact as it gets damp it actually feels warmer. (not a feature I noticed when I was a child wearing a knitted woolen swimming costume. Yes really. It would hold so much water the crotch stretched down to the knees)

I expect indoors to be 22 degrees! Anything less isn't warm enough. And I dress very appropriately for the weather.

I worked somewhere that made a huge deal of moving from an office with no working boiler(for YEARS) and plug in oil radiators, to the attic over a freight place ‘with central heating’. On Mondays it was so cold you could barely touch the desks. The downstairs was just a vast space full of cold air when they’d had the roller doors open all weekend.
I had to do a sweep of M and S for thermal leggings, tights, tops and socks. To go with wrist warmers, boots, hot water bottles, and a heated blanket stored in my desk drawer. It was absolutely unbearable. Especially if you’d done a school run on foot before setting off to work.
And yes, I was formerly a 20-something who didn’t own socks and wouldn’t dream of wearing an unfashionable puffa 😂

I couldn't agree more. I feel the cold, so dress in warm winter clothes. I'm sick of wearing appropriate clothing and then being absolutely boiling indoors, because other people want the heat on max all day, while they are sat there in a thin blouse. It's 1 degree outside, they need to sort themselves out!

It becomes other people's business though if those who follow the Hawaii dress code then expect the place to be uncomfortably hot for everyone else. I used to get this in school, they would come with no coat, no jumper and a short sleeved shirt and expect the heating to compensate for their stupidity and in some cases parents would ring up to complain that their little dear is cold.

YANBU.

I think it's specific to this country, having lived in various countries where pretty much everyone seems to manage to dress themselves and their children appropriately for the different seasons. Only in the UK do you see people outside in just a T-shirt when it's 10 degrees or below. It's like people don't know the difference between 10°C and 30°C. I do wonder if it's linked to the fact we have such changeable weather though - you need a variety of types of clothes and shoes to go with all the types of weather and not everyone can afford to equip themselves for all eventualities.

That said, I agree with PP that it's perfectly possible to dress warmly without spending a fortune, and when its really cold that should be a priority. Charity shops are full of warm jumpers at this time of year.

I think it starts in childhood. I live in an affluent area and am surprised at the number of kids I see on the school run who don't have a proper warm coat, little girls in just socks and no tights when it's close to freezing, no hats or gloves, when is possible to dress a child warmly without breaking the bank.

My teen DD has been wearing her thermal vests since september when I thought it was completely unneccesary she also has fleece lined leggings and tights from Primark! She hates being cold.

22 is tropical for me, maybe it's because my house has thick walls but if it gets much above 16 it's too hot.

Why on earth does “knobhead” spring to your mind? He was just presumably wearing what he wanted to wear and felt comfortable in, minding his own business.

Unless he came up to you and asked to borrow your fucking North Face jacket because he was too cold, then why is he a knobhead and why does it offend you.

Not everyone feels the cold to the same degree and not everyone likes being “snug and toasty.”
I don’t wear a coat to go shopping - I just don’t get that cold walking around outside and as soon as I go in a shop wearing even a very light coat I get so hot I feel unwell and claustrophobic. I’ve always been like this it’s just what I’m like - people are different so there’s no need for you to be smug.

You sound like the “knobhead” in this scenario.

As far as the OP is concerned it’s unreasonable for people to wear summer clothes in winter and then complain they’re cold, but only if they do complain.

An office should be warm enough that you don’t have to wear winter clothing indoors to be comfortable though.

Inappropriate or inadequate clothing is one of the signs of poverty.
Or, possibly in your example, sheer ignorance.