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About "adult babies" and "littles"

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HappyAsAGrownup · 06/12/2023 17:11

I've recently found out someone I know well has been attending events for people who identify as "littles" - ie adults who roleplay being babies, toddlers, or children up to and including teenagers. Apparently activities include crafts and colouring, being read popular children's books at 'story time' amongst others.

This is not something I know much about although I'm familiar with adult kinks and fetishes, and while most of that stuff is just not for me, I tend to think that what people do in private is their business as long as it's consensual and doesn't hurt anyone.

But this adult baby and "littles" stuff is giving me the ick, especially as some of these events are part of much bigger bdsm/ fetish party events where the wider focus is on sexual and erotic themes. I'm thinking even if the 'regular' participants aren't actually having sex, their activities are somewhat sex-adjacent, and I'm really confused about people roleplaying as children being in this environment.

I thought I'd try and educate myself a bit (in case I'd got it horribly wrong, and so I could form a more informed opinion) but the blogs and websites i found (a lot of the resources appeared to be on closed forums which I didn't wish to join) have continued to make me feel uneasy about people roleplaying as children doing so in a sexually focussed environment.

YABU - stop clutching your pearls, adults in giant onesies and custom giant reusable nappies are fine in a bdsm/ fetish club

YANBU - this is weird AF

NB this person does not have any contact with any actual children in my life ever, nor indeed any children at all on a day-to-day basis AFAIK

OP posts:
EmilyCars · 24/12/2023 06:58

I love how everyone keeps saying how it's only men that do this! Lmao at the amount of woman involved in this kink too. Ppl love to generalise.
For me this adult baby thing is not for me. But they are sexualising an object, not actual children!
And again there are just as many woman involved in this kink as men.
People need to get facts right before deciding what is right or wrong.

Newsenmum · 24/12/2023 09:22

EmilyCars · 24/12/2023 06:58

I love how everyone keeps saying how it's only men that do this! Lmao at the amount of woman involved in this kink too. Ppl love to generalise.
For me this adult baby thing is not for me. But they are sexualising an object, not actual children!
And again there are just as many woman involved in this kink as men.
People need to get facts right before deciding what is right or wrong.

What object are they sexualising? A dummy? So you would be ok with someone being around a baby if they get turned on by their dummy?

TheKeatingFive · 24/12/2023 10:05

And again there are just as many woman involved in this kink as men

I find that exceptionally hard to believe

TrashedSofa · 24/12/2023 10:06

It's weird as fuck, yes.

Waitingfordoggo · 24/12/2023 10:47

TheKeatingFive · 24/12/2023 10:05

And again there are just as many woman involved in this kink as men

I find that exceptionally hard to believe

Same.

Fetishes in general are much more common in men than women and this particular one will not be an exception, I suspect.

EmilyCars · 24/12/2023 13:47

People are so quick to judge things they don't know. Having an opinion is one thing but don't be that Judgemental person if you do not understand it.
There are many kinks out there, whether it be this, vampirism, bandage etc. Yet you quick to judge and kink shame, it's not right until its you or doneone you know that is into some weird shit that you will be the quiet one I. The corner not saying anything. Stop being judgmental! I can bet there are ppl on this thread that have a kink of their own and would you like it if everyone kink shame you? No, I don't think do. This is not the world we live in now. Everyone has there own choices, if it's not hurting anyone else, leave it be.

Newsenmum · 24/12/2023 14:14

EmilyCars · 24/12/2023 13:47

People are so quick to judge things they don't know. Having an opinion is one thing but don't be that Judgemental person if you do not understand it.
There are many kinks out there, whether it be this, vampirism, bandage etc. Yet you quick to judge and kink shame, it's not right until its you or doneone you know that is into some weird shit that you will be the quiet one I. The corner not saying anything. Stop being judgmental! I can bet there are ppl on this thread that have a kink of their own and would you like it if everyone kink shame you? No, I don't think do. This is not the world we live in now. Everyone has there own choices, if it's not hurting anyone else, leave it be.

Again, it is different to playing and acting as a baby to HAVING SEX as a baby. It’s different.

Newsenmum · 24/12/2023 14:16

EmilyCars · 24/12/2023 13:41

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5773400/woman-23-finds-fame-as-an-adult-baby-who-wears-a-nappy-as-welland-her-boyfriend-loves-it/

Google it ppl. There are just as many woman involved in this kink as men. So don't be so quick to blame only men. Lol. This world makes me laugh.
Yet its okay for others to label themselves something other than a man or a woman. That's acceptable, let people be. If they not harming anyone. What is the problem?

She is a survivor of sexual abuse.

Her boyfriend is the one getting sexual pleasure out of pretending to do it with a baby. That’s weirder imo.

RobertaFirmino · 24/12/2023 14:27

Newsenmum · 06/12/2023 20:19

So she replays her child abuse?
Doesn’t that normalise it so that the brain can feel better about it?

I suspect there is no sex involved and this woman sits on the floor and does colouring, Lego or similar, gets looked after by Nanny and tries to recreate the childhood she should have had.

EmilyCars · 24/12/2023 15:33

So there we go, it's not harming anyone, she enjoys sitting in a nappy playing with lego etc. No need to kink shame, as its her way of coping!
Everyone deals with trauma a different way.
Shame on anyone that wants to shame ppl. Do you accept it, no, end of story. No need to shame them. They are ppl dealing with their own demons in a way that is safe for them.
We don't have to agree eith it, but everyone to their own. We are not bullies and judge ppl are we?

PocketSand · 24/12/2023 17:57

I have recently read Kate Atkinson's Shrines of Gaity which refers to a 'baby' party which she references to accounts provided by Barbara Cartland. Odd then but the demographic had odd childhoods. Not sure it was sexual.

A normal childhood (no nanny plus boarding school at 7) plus a sexual element is more than odd and not really a kink (something that is harmless and confined).

therealcookiemonster · 24/12/2023 21:00

@EmilyCars wonderful, one case from the sun - that paragon of academic excellence as your source. where are the hard statistics that 'just as many women are into it'?

and even if many people are into something, doesn't make it OK.

TheKeatingFive · 24/12/2023 21:18

Shame on anyone that wants to shame ppl.

I, for one, am ALL for shaming people for certain things. There are certain types of behaviour that are not good for society to tolerate - shame can be an extremely useful tool for these kinds of behaviours.

EmilyCars · 25/12/2023 00:03

And that's what makes you that person that is wrong in this world!

MarthaMayWho · 25/12/2023 02:04

As far as 'wrongs of the world go' not showing sufficient sadface for grown adults using baby imagery as 'kink' is pretty fucking low on the agenda.
Just for your reference most people consider things like child abuse, domestic violence, fgm, war to be top.

Things like enabling pedophile fetish are naturally at the bottom, even if you can find some traumatised women to use as poster girls.

I mean, I'd be trying to stamp out abusive men in the first place so they don't try this coercive or misguided joke of therapy myself, but I'm sure placards with 'fetish rights' have that instant gratification and right on feeling that's just irresistible.

brainworms · 25/12/2023 02:10

Very experienced kinkster here.

I don't kinkshame often, but this is an instance I absolutely will. ABDL (adult baby diaper lovers) are fucked up, it is disgusting. I loathe any kink related to this, littles, childlike play etc. Part of the reason I pulled away from the kink scene was because of creepy old men perving over women much younger than themselves, sexualising them and making them dress like kids.

It's disgusting.

I could rant forever but I'll stop now.

TheKeatingFive · 25/12/2023 03:24

And that's what makes you that person that is wrong in this world!

No, that's you sweetie

GodDammitCecil · 25/12/2023 05:30

EmilyCars · 25/12/2023 00:03

And that's what makes you that person that is wrong in this world!

So, so odd to come onto a thread that had died a death to defend people who do this.

So weird.

Berthatydfil · 25/12/2023 07:47

I think a bit more kink shaming wouldn't be a bad thing these days.

Normalising kink and critising kink shaming is all about lowering our defences particularly around children - I mean its only colouring and bed time stories right? Lets just bring our toddlers - what could go wrong?

If it were all so innocent - colouring and bed time stories why are these events taking place as part of wider BDSM events?

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EmilyCars · 29/12/2023 17:00

You an expert then? Lol

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SpudleyLass · 09/05/2024 21:44

The first case that jumped to mind was the US man, Mark Redwine, who murdered his own son because he had found his father's photos of him wearing nappies and soiling them.

So no, I don't have a positive image of this sort of thing and I am likely to assume the worst if somebody tells me that they're into it.

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