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About "adult babies" and "littles"

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HappyAsAGrownup · 06/12/2023 17:11

I've recently found out someone I know well has been attending events for people who identify as "littles" - ie adults who roleplay being babies, toddlers, or children up to and including teenagers. Apparently activities include crafts and colouring, being read popular children's books at 'story time' amongst others.

This is not something I know much about although I'm familiar with adult kinks and fetishes, and while most of that stuff is just not for me, I tend to think that what people do in private is their business as long as it's consensual and doesn't hurt anyone.

But this adult baby and "littles" stuff is giving me the ick, especially as some of these events are part of much bigger bdsm/ fetish party events where the wider focus is on sexual and erotic themes. I'm thinking even if the 'regular' participants aren't actually having sex, their activities are somewhat sex-adjacent, and I'm really confused about people roleplaying as children being in this environment.

I thought I'd try and educate myself a bit (in case I'd got it horribly wrong, and so I could form a more informed opinion) but the blogs and websites i found (a lot of the resources appeared to be on closed forums which I didn't wish to join) have continued to make me feel uneasy about people roleplaying as children doing so in a sexually focussed environment.

YABU - stop clutching your pearls, adults in giant onesies and custom giant reusable nappies are fine in a bdsm/ fetish club

YANBU - this is weird AF

NB this person does not have any contact with any actual children in my life ever, nor indeed any children at all on a day-to-day basis AFAIK

OP posts:
Newsenmum · 06/12/2023 20:17

Anal is actually quite common and can be enjoyed by women. Nothing to do with children.

Newsenmum · 06/12/2023 20:18

MilitantMommyBFArmy4Life · 06/12/2023 19:22

It's really hard to believe that someone who is turned on by a 42 year old man dressed like a baby would be turned on by an actual baby tbh. Is there any evidence that one leads to another?

First of all, you can be turned on by more than one thing, so not all paedos are exclusively attracted to children are they?

Sam can't be a nice because he has a wife? That's not how it works.

And someone who's crossed a line into getting aroused by nappies, children's voices and other associations may not be be able to control what else they're attracted to.

I'd also imagine people into this stuff are quite socially isolated and could easily end up getting into more stuff that most people don't

They’re getting as close as they can to the ‘real thing‘ and it’s the objects like the nappies, bottles and dummies that they like in a sexual way. So if they go into a baby shop they will feel aroused.

TheKeatingFive · 06/12/2023 20:19

Let's face facts, porn is what has got us here.

Newsenmum · 06/12/2023 20:19

Universalsnail · 06/12/2023 18:36

It gives me the ick but also aslong as all adults are consenting and there is no power at play, and it's done in private I just think whatever. I asked someone online once who said she was into it, I asked her to explain to me why, she said she was abused as a child and she found it therapeutic. I couldn't really argue with her tbh.

So she replays her child abuse?
Doesn’t that normalise it so that the brain can feel better about it?

Newsenmum · 06/12/2023 20:20

TheKeatingFive · 06/12/2023 20:19

Let's face facts, porn is what has got us here.

And what kind…

IAmAnIdiot123 · 06/12/2023 20:20

HappyAsAGrownup · 06/12/2023 17:43

@Newsenmum
This is the thing that bothers me. I know people who have been to a 'summer camp' for adults where they did things like crafts and canoeing and sing-songs and playing British Bulldogs and were reliving childhood fun and it all seemed quite wholesome. Doing it in a context of a kink environment seems a lot different.

Thats totally different. I have always wanted to go to one of those American summer camps you see in the movies, they look like great fun with the lake sports and camping etc. If I had the opportunity to go to an adult version of that I would snap it up! There is absolutely nothing sexual in that scenario as its all about the team building/activities which are usually only accessible to kids (and possibly parents, going to trampoline parks and soft plays were a big draw when we decided to have kids 🤣)

The adult baby thing is all about sexual gratification from the very little exposure I have had to it. I remember an episode of sexcetera (remember that!? Dear Lord!) which did a feature on it and it looked bloody grim!

itsmylife7 · 06/12/2023 20:31

Sauvblanctime · 06/12/2023 20:09

It’s another form of penetration, lots of women enjoy it.

let’s normalise it

🙄

Jztbrzzsy · 06/12/2023 20:32

If there are no actual kids involved, I don't think I could muster up the energy to get angry about what other adults do in their personal lives.

Melonandfalafel · 06/12/2023 20:41

I dont wish to Google any of the suggestions here as it makes me feel physically sick.

Society has a responsibility to protect the vulnerable, which includes children.
Any normalisation of the sexualisation of children, has the potential to put children at risk. Therefore, comments saying it’s ‘none of my business’, I do not consider a valid response - silence encourages the tormented, never the tormentor.

Separately, and not comparatively, but with respect to the comments surrounding anal sex being taught in schools, is this really being normalised with teenage girls? Consenting older adults have the opportunity to explore other options but this seems quite worrying, and putting girls at risk of violent sexual behaviour. I feel very worried that girls will not be able to say no.

Sauvblanctime · 06/12/2023 20:45

itsmylife7 · 06/12/2023 20:31

🙄

🙄

Mummymummy89 · 06/12/2023 21:07

Lwrenagain · 06/12/2023 19:10

It shouldn't shock me. I read the news. Watch documentaries. I even consume true crime podcasts.

Yet the idea of parents being paid to abuse their children shocks me, it sickens me to the core and it actually makes me feel murderous. Like most people I have a friend that can't have children and she'd be the best mum I could think of.
And yet parents like these utter vermin exist.
I hope there is a hell.

And I'm also relieved you said no to babysitting. How terrifying for you when you learnt he had ulterior motives. I'm glad your baby was never with him x

Thank you, yes we were so so shocked and terrified and I went through a long phase of hypervigilance with my dd because I was so horrified there could be such evil out there.

The thing about the parents being commissioned was so sick... there wasn't any more detail in the short news article. But I tried to comfort myself that surely, now that all those images were found by the police (and they found the correspondence from the bloke to the parents, some of it was referred to in court), then they could identify those poor kids and get them somewhere safe and charge those parents with abuse.

My dd was about a year old when we found all this out and I just couldn't bear it, for several months all I could think about whenever I changed or bathed her was about those similar aged tiny kids out there that this guy had had abused. She was just so small and vulnerable.

Mummymummy89 · 06/12/2023 21:12

Also knowing that suspended sentences are the norm for "non contact" paedophiles (even ones who actively cause abuse) just shook me so bad, I had no idea, I thought they got locked up. I just used to think, they could be anywhere. I used to think I saw that bloke everywhere, and double-take but it was just a guy who looked a bit like him... he lives in a totally different area of London

missmollygreen · 06/12/2023 21:15

Crafts?! Colouring in?! Reading books?!
Those filthy perverts!

Evaandme · 06/12/2023 21:15

I know someone who’s in the bdsm scene and he told me about littles. He basically said some of them have had bad childhoods experiences or trauma as a child so basically revert back to childhood in that kind of way

Flamango · 06/12/2023 21:18

Disgusting porn soaked depraved men.
Bring on the the meteor, humans have jumped the shark.

TheCheerfulNihilist · 06/12/2023 21:21

WolfFoxHare · 06/12/2023 19:16

No, it’s gross. Some kinks should be shamed.

This.

No more pretending everything is fine.

Fucking hell.

Lwrenagain · 06/12/2023 21:30

@Mummymummy89 I'm so sorry you experienced that, it sounds awfully traumatic so close to home.
Unfortunately I did know about the suspended sentences, a lad I know, I say lad he's early 30s, downloaded 1000s upon 1000s of images and he got suspended sentence.

I imagine once the child was identified she was removed from her evil parents and I hope she's given the support and love of a new family who are equipped to help her with her traumas. 💔

MarthaMayWho · 06/12/2023 21:42

Trust your instincts op. But even without instincts it's so obviously depraved.

I don't buy it as therapy or whatever. Sure you might have some vulnerable female victims that want to repeat trauma on a loop but there are better ways of healing. And I don't buy that the huge amount of men into this (majority surely) were all abused. It's really in plain sight and the fact people silence others when they find it weird as above is really weird.

Odd world we love in where saying men can't be women/babies/dogs is hate speech and dressing up as a baby for kinks is seen as 'not your kink not your lane.'

MilitantMommyBFArmy4Life · 06/12/2023 21:42

Evaandme · 06/12/2023 21:15

I know someone who’s in the bdsm scene and he told me about littles. He basically said some of them have had bad childhoods experiences or trauma as a child so basically revert back to childhood in that kind of way

Indulging in comfort things like children's movies, certain foods, music is normal. Being emotionally immature, childish etc

Honestly, wearing a nappy, making your bed into an adult sized crib and going goo goo, ain't - which is what I've seen of these Adult babies/littles

Even if you have trauma that is not healthy and is going down a bizarre path

LardyCakeAgain · 06/12/2023 21:46

Any normalisation of the sexualisation of children, has the potential to put children at risk. Therefore, comments saying it’s ‘none of my business’, I do not consider a valid response - silence encourages the tormented, never the tormentor

Well said, @Melonandfalafel 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Superduper02 · 06/12/2023 21:52

Flickersy · 06/12/2023 18:17

Lots of people wear nappies or incontinence pads in public. They don't need our consent to wear them, even if they're being worn for sexual reasons and not medical reasons. My consent does not apply to what other people wear or think in public.

It's also not illegal to take pictures of yourself on a changing table. Although it's probably supremely inadvisable as they're not designed to take an adults weight most of the time... I foresee a nasty accident befalling someone. The only person they're possibly harming there is themselves!

You are part of the problem.

LardyCakeAgain · 06/12/2023 21:54

I honestly feel like I'm going loopy when I read stuff like this and seeing fetishism on public being treated like normal behaviour. The window is being pushed way too far in terms of permissiveness and being seen to be progressive; it's kids and vulnerable adults who are the unwilling canaries in the coal mine.

Superduper02 · 06/12/2023 21:55

Newsenmum · 06/12/2023 20:19

So she replays her child abuse?
Doesn’t that normalise it so that the brain can feel better about it?

🤮🤮🤮 bloody hell this world gets sicker by the minute.

Fionaville · 06/12/2023 21:59

It would put me right off them!
This is sexualising babies and children. What kind of person would want to have sex with someone pretending to be a child? It's not difficult to work it out.

XenoBitch · 06/12/2023 21:59

I know someone who is into the whole adult baby thing. He sees a lady who has part of her house set up as an upscaled nursery (so giant cot, adult nappies, giant potties etc), and he spends time there being treated like a baby. Nothing sexual happens.
It fills some unmet need in him. I don't see it as harmful at all.

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