About "adult babies" and "littles"

[HappyAsAGrownup]

I've recently found out someone I know well has been attending events for people who identify as "littles" - ie adults who roleplay being babies, toddlers, or children up to and including teenagers. Apparently activities include crafts and colouring, being read popular children's books at 'story time' amongst others.

This is not something I know much about although I'm familiar with adult kinks and fetishes, and while most of that stuff is just not for me, I tend to think that what people do in private is their business as long as it's consensual and doesn't hurt anyone.

But this adult baby and "littles" stuff is giving me the ick, especially as some of these events are part of much bigger bdsm/ fetish party events where the wider focus is on sexual and erotic themes. I'm thinking even if the 'regular' participants aren't actually having sex, their activities are somewhat sex-adjacent, and I'm really confused about people roleplaying as children being in this environment.

I thought I'd try and educate myself a bit (in case I'd got it horribly wrong, and so I could form a more informed opinion) but the blogs and websites i found (a lot of the resources appeared to be on closed forums which I didn't wish to join) have continued to make me feel uneasy about people roleplaying as children doing so in a sexually focussed environment.

YABU - stop clutching your pearls, adults in giant onesies and custom giant reusable nappies are fine in a bdsm/ fetish club

YANBU - this is weird AF

NB this person does not have any contact with any actual children in my life ever, nor indeed any children at all on a day-to-day basis AFAIK

Bring back kink shaming for this kind of weird shit, I say! Getting off pretending to be children is disgusting. They should all have their hard drives checked.

You are so right. I haven't but lots of people have.

Apologies. Fwiw I agree with your last post completely.

It gives me the ick but also aslong as all adults are consenting and there is no power at play, and it's done in private I just think whatever. I asked someone online once who said she was into it, I asked her to explain to me why, she said she was abused as a child and she found it therapeutic. I couldn't really argue with her tbh.

If it quacks like a duck……

Look up Maria Childres and have a read - a TIM on trial in the US at the moment for molesting a baby. Also like to dress up as a little...

Agree.

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

Yuck.

I’m astounded anyone would vote that this post is unreasonable. I hope none of these people have children. It’s disgusting and should be shamed. Shame is a very important social tool to reinforce what is acceptable and what isn’t. This “anything goes” society is breeding rampant degeneracy.

I've spoken to two self identifying littles about this.

One said that her "comfort, safe space, default" was to be in a little headspace. Which meant that when she had sex that was how she felt safe and comfortable, not that she got off from being little.

Another said that she literally felt and thought like a child and needed a man to make decisions for her, protect her from herself and look after her. She said she couldn't protect herself, the example she gave was how a young child may run into a road, she needed the same protection. When I asked how she's able to consent to sex in that case, she couldn't answer.

@CrispsandCheeseSandwich AI needs to be fed similar images in order to come up with new ones I'm pretty sure. So obviously not okay.

I asked someone online once who said she was into it, I asked her to explain to me why, she said she was abused as a child and she found it therapeutic. I couldn't really argue with her tbh.

Is a sexual partner involved in this though? Because I would then have concerns about anyone participating in role playing sex with children.

Or in this country, David Challenor who tortured and sexually abused a ten year old girl in the attic of his home whilst dressed in adult sized “baby dresses” and nappies.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/coventry-captive-girl-attic-torture-den-david-challenor-coventry-a8502991.html

If you are feeling brave there is a link in FWR to Wings over Scotland, its in the thread about Scottish Greens, you will need the eye bleach though.

It’s exactly what shame is for - to encourage people to manage their own behaviour in socially acceptable ways.

Exactly. Shame has a useful purpose when it comes to grossness like this.

@TheKeatingFive thank you, your post about the demand to "be accepting" hits the nail on the head for me. When I first heard about the "littles" thing I knew I felt deeply uncomfortable about it but I found myself second-guessing whether this was because I just didn't like the idea of it, or if I actually found it disturbing. I am very comfortable now knowing that I was deeply uncomfortable because the idea of "littles" is indeed disturbing. I'm grateful to you and others on this thread for helping me articulate my gut feelings, and also understand how insidious normalising this kind of behaviour can be

Funnily enough Challenor and his son had big links to the Green Party.

Cigarettes are the main gateway drug - so your comment is a bit of an own goal

It's really hard to believe that someone who is turned on by a 42 year old man dressed like a baby would be turned on by an actual baby tbh. Is there any evidence that one leads to another?

It shouldn't shock me. I read the news. Watch documentaries. I even consume true crime podcasts.

Yet the idea of parents being paid to abuse their children shocks me, it sickens me to the core and it actually makes me feel murderous. Like most people I have a friend that can't have children and she'd be the best mum I could think of.
And yet parents like these utter vermin exist.
I hope there is a hell.

And I'm also relieved you said no to babysitting. How terrifying for you when you learnt he had ulterior motives. I'm glad your baby was never with him x

Gross

Just because your bar is that low, doesn’t mean the rest of us need to go down to that level.

Plenty of things are legal, but not OK. Bullying, emotionally and/or financially abusing your partner, being an arsehole, cheating on your partner. The list goes on.

Society, rightly condemns these things, and judges the people who do them.

Just because something is legal, doesn’t follow that people get a free pass to do it.

Paedophiles aren’t always exclusively attracted to children. Many have adult sexual relations.

Some will substitute other fetishes to get off too. There’s a whole ‘monkey torture’ scene that is filled with paedophiles using the material for sexual purposes (arrests have been made in a number of countries). Subbing an adult playing a baby for an actual baby is just a far more direct substitution.

No, it’s gross. Some kinks should be shamed.

They should be in an asylum

It appears to be the
" new thing " to try and normalise all the fucking sick stuff like paedophilia and anal for young women.

No, you sickos I will kink shame you 😡