To feel completely disillusioned with the Labour Party?

[user6776]

I've voted Labour since I've been able to vote. Come from a working class family of Labour voters also and I'd never vote Tory, but I'm feeling so disillusioned by Labour at the minute.

Wasn't really a fan of Starmer to begin with, but even less so after his comments about Margaret Thatcher. I really don't want to vote for them at the next GE.

AIBU to just not vote at all?

Yep! Opening post about something that has been taken out of context & then OP disappears! 🙄

There are so many of them!

I guess it gives some young Tory staff member something to do, thinking of forum posts to try and stop people voting labour.

@Zonder yep, call me cynical but I really mistrust posts like these. Especially knowing how desperate the Tories are. And it's tragic that all they have is 'oh,look how depressed KS sounds' plus a distortion of a newspaper article.

Did we ever find out where the interview where he allegedly channelled Eeyore was broadcast?

I've never voted labour before and just might this time, they can't be pure socialists or they will never get the votes to win. What I'd really like is the LD to be a sensible centrist party, not a bunch of student politicians.

The interview was the high performance podcast.

The one from last March? 9 months ago? Where he's laughing about how his job is like being England manager?

Yep and he's rather a jolly Eeyore!

They can't be pure socialist because they know it won't work and will only result in huge debt. If you want to invest more money in public services you need to encourage and reward enterprise. Where do you think most tax come from? What fuels economy, creates growth and provides jobs? Enterprise.

Have you ever seen purely socialist country that was doing well for itself and its people ? Not one.
It's not just about the votes.

But if you don't vote then you will get the crappiest party into power and they don't care how they got into power or how many people didn't vote for them out of protest as long as they are in power.

Labour isn't perfect. Far from it. They are going to do a lot of things thst will damage this country but the tories will damage it more. I am not a massive fan of keir starmer either but surely anybody is better than the current bunch of conservatives?

(Well, not anybody. Please don't vote reform either. They are just tories on steroids.)

Please vote.

You owe it to the women who helped us to be able to vote and all the countries in the world where there is not even democracy.

I get the OP's point. It is discouraging when you vote and you know it won't be worth anything. I live in very very very date Tory seat (they evert stayed Tory in recent local council elections). I can, and will, vote anything but CON but where I live the only benefit I can think of in my voting is the walk to the polling station. So, it's not straight forward and very much depends where you live.

I feel exactly the same way for multiple reasons. It is discombobulating to feel so disenfranchised and unmotivated with upcoming elections

Ok Rishi - you can stop trolling now.

Trans Women

Men who can't make it as a Man and get more traction as a Man pretending to be a woman.

And bizarrely have attention as women because as men doing women do it better. Supposedly.

So yeah fuck the Greens.

What exactly is it that you don’t like? I mean quoting Thatcher isn’t a big deal really. I think most voters will find it hard to find a party that 100% reflects what they want. Most of us just vote for the party closest to our views. I’m not telling you to vote Labour or Lib Dem or whatever but I would say you have to be pragmatic when voting.

Ofcourse you can always spoil your ballot if you feel really fed up. It’s your vote and you can do what you like with it.

I don’t get some Labour supporters, how is a random post on mumsnet supposed to be stopping people from voting Labour.

“I was going to vote Labour but OMG user6776 is feeling disillusioned, thats it I’m not voting now!”.

In many constituencies there is someone to vote for other than Labour- there are Greens, Independents, sometimes local candidates on single issues.
I wouldn’t say Green is a wasted vote at all- higher numbers of Green votes can shift the agenda and I would certainly rather the agenda was pushed in a Green rather than a Reform UK direction.
For the sake of those in the past who fought for the vote, I would always vote even though it wouldn’t be for one of the main parties this time.
I also don’t understand why anyone critical of Labour is viewed as a Tory staffer or accused of letting the Tories in. Labour will win this election by some distance but that doesn’t mean they are above scrutiny or criticism.

We need to push for proportional representation.

If you have a better alternative OP, please produce it. In the interim, anyone who does not support the current bunch of chancers and finaglers masquerading as the Tory party should consider voting Labour or Lib Dem in the appropriate constituencies. Unless you like them and their non-achievements so much that you'd like more of the same? In which case vote for them or don't vote at all. Both actions demonstrate a lack of political understanding if you are concerned about the future.

I'll always vote because of this and I'd never spoil my ballot paper.

Well said @newnamethanks

In your shoes I would vote Green. It's not a wasted vote in that if their share of the vote continues to increase their collective voice gets louder.

It's a marathon, not a sprint.

If you know it's between Labour and the Tories then only don't vote if you genuinely have no preference between the two.

It looks like the Tories are not going to win but I remember nobody thought Leave would win in 2016, but they did.

I'm all up for challenging Labour, as they are more to the right than I'd like, but getting the Tories out is my top priority.

Or spoil your ballot. That's a valid active choice.