To feel completely disillusioned with the Labour Party?

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I've voted Labour since I've been able to vote. Come from a working class family of Labour voters also and I'd never vote Tory, but I'm feeling so disillusioned by Labour at the minute.

Wasn't really a fan of Starmer to begin with, but even less so after his comments about Margaret Thatcher. I really don't want to vote for them at the next GE.

AIBU to just not vote at all?

What did he say about Thatcher?

And what about all the younger disabled people who have spent 14 years being called scroungers and not supported? Of course they don't matter.

Older people are no more or less deserving than younger people. It's time they were treated just like everyone else. After 14 years of cossetting, that's no more than fair.

My Mum was pissing and moaning about Labour four weeks after they got in, saying that they were no good. And I did ask her what exactly she wanted or would expect from a government that had been in power for under a month. She was still frothing at the mouth. Chatted something about immigrants and so called far right activists. Then moaned more recently about the winter fuel allowance followed by, I don't need it anyway I can afford it. Now I'm saddened by Labour's position politically on some topics, but wouldn't judge them for at least three years. Whereas we have had 14 years of pretty much utter chaos, and the Tories have left us with nothing much good. Personally I'm quite surprised Labour won at all, and looking at the figures they crept through on hardly any votes and it was mainly thanks to Farage for splitting the Tory vote. So I'm worried that Labour will potentially get one term. But if they aren't prepared to bring about electoral reform and power share then so be it. We'll be back to something as bad as the Truss weeks in no time at all. The current four candidates for the Tories are hopeless, so one does have to ask what next at this all time low. Means tested benefits are a pain in the arse and costly to distribute. Oh well, I'm digging out the duvet for the front room this year with hot water bottle, same as last. The housing stock in the UK is so utterly abysmal we are literally throwing cash out the window and fuelling shareholders. I'd love to see some kind of national housing rebuilding initiative, and a complete change in legislation for new development. We should not even need to heat properties in this country with anything much other than the Sun.

So they aren't using it for what it's intended yet you still think the tax payer should fund it? Yeah, no thanks.

This is not a race to the bottom.
Mick Lynch

Indeed it isn't. It's older people paying their share at last.
Of course when you have been accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

I'm rather pleased that this current Labour government aren't all wishy-washy and are taking a 'hard line' on some 'issues'. And with regards to the WFA, my only criticism is that the threshold is too low and could easily be remedied by increasing the thresholds for PC qualification, effective immediately with the Autumn Budget.

I also agree with the 'principle' of stabilizing certain 'unionized' actions with pay increases solely for the public good as necessary; but also think that there are many cost saving and equalizing measures that can be undertaken to prevent the unproductive and inefficient work practices, in all it's forms, curremtly prevailing within all public services.

I'm a floater voter, so didn't vote Labour in the last GE, so have no skin in the game.

After all the hate for older people soaking up benefits, I think my DM died at about the right time. She worked in a mental health nursing team until she was 78, Latterly only three days a week. How much blood does the machine want? She lived another 11 years retired, and died a month ago, without requiring a doctor or nurse.

Excellent point.

Not so sure of that. DM, born 1935 so Silent generation, a wartime child, and a paed nurse in the 50s, a young mum in the 60s, and a school meals cook or nurse in the 70s. In the 80s a market trader, in the 90s a MH carer, at which point with financial help she was able to buy a 2-up,2-down terrace. Retired at 78.... older people paying their share at last @Zonder @pointythings

She lived gracefully, but not well, and certainly not the high life.

And your DM would have spent 14 years not having real terms cuts to her pension, whereas low paid workers and disabled people spent 14 years seeing their income eroded. Why is your DM worth more than a young disabled person?