Aibu to think it was not possible for Carole Middleton to engineer her daughters marriage?

[Bahhumbug23]

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/royals/carole-middleton-master-plan/

Kate was staunchly middle class. The royals are notoriously snobby. Aibu to think that Carole did not & wouldn't be capable of engineering this? How the hell would she be able to do this?!

if you are coached and tutored and coached and go to a "good" school I imagine St Andrews is quite easy to get into.

What 19year old does what their parents tell them to for a good marriage 😂

and St Andrews has pathway courses for students who don't have the "Entry requirements "

@Chaiselongueallday quite a few, you’d be amazed, but def not mine either ;)

How can we show our support for K & W tonight? I feel for them.

Omid Scobie is a nasty piece of work. It is the height of mysogyny to accuse two women of scheming to nail a prince. He should be ashamed.

Why do people get satisfaction out of being horrible to someone they don't even know?

I don’t know. I suppose they feel secure in the anonymity of the internet and also members of the royal family can be insulted with impunity as there will be no come back.

The question is WHY the Middleton parents ensured Kate had a brilliant education but didn't encourage her to follow that up with a meaningful career? I find it really weird that Kate who is supposedly smart, was only hood enough to wait around for PW to propose.

@Bales23 we don’t have full context. Possibly she’ll return to study for example, perhaps she has.

Indeed, Kate should have been enslaved to academe, what a neglectful mother. Maybe she just wanted to marry and have kids. Some people do whether their mother likes it or not.

@Bahhumbug23

"Personally I think that Carole & Michael appear to be very warm, supportive & have a great relationship with their children. They have put up with so much flak & the majority of it is jealousy."

Well it's not jealousy or flak from the poor sods they owe money too is it.

This.

@Bales23

"The question is WHY the Middleton parents ensured Kate had a brilliant education but didn't encourage her to follow that up with a meaningful career?"

Because her parents are social climbers. Their aim was for their daughters to marry rich and preferably aristocratic men. This would not be beyond imagination for daughters of millionaires who went to the best schools would it? Both have achieved the desired status, game over.

Are you a hyper for the publishers ?

Yep. But, after the outpouring of Piers, she might have to gurn and grin a little more vigorously...the American press are all over it..🙄

Incidentally- PW wouldn't have "transferred" to from fine art to geography in his 2nd year. St Andrews doesn't work like that. He would have done 3 subjects in his 1st year and fine art would have been one of them because it was/is for most posh students. He would have dropped it for his second year as he moved towards honours geography in his 3rd and 4th years.

I think this is rather unfair.

I am a fervent republican and I loathe what being a member of the RF does to women, and like you, despair of the pantomime, but we all have one persona for work and one for our private life. Just because K is required to be very reserved and neutral in her opinions for her public role, doesn’t make her necessarily boring in her private life. None of us have a clue what her personality is like behind closed doors.

What a horrible thing to say. You've no evidence that the Middleton family are social climbers or anything of the sort. There are some really nasty spiteful catty comments on this thread.

This. There are some really vicious comments on this thread. The level of spite being shown by some people is really unpleasant and uncalled for

And to answer your question op, I think it’s a ridiculous and highly misogynistic suggestion that Carole engineered K & W’s marriage.

Both of my dds attend a Russell Group university atm and I have very little idea who their friends are and absolutely no control over who ends up in which class. Is someone suggesting Carole rang up the Admissions Office or slipped the history of art profs a bundle? Seriously, how would it be possible to engineer something like this unless you donated a lot of money to the uni and no one knew about it? But even then you couldn’t control what happens in the students’ social life?

I think it's a mistake to attribute 'misogyny' (which is very much a current buzz word) to comments about the possible actions of a woman now in her 60s/70s. The past is a different country, and Mrs Middleton may well have had plans for her daughter. There's nothing misogynistic about suggesting that.

I really doubt it. She might have wanted her daughter to 'marry well' in the old-fashioned sense but I don't see how or why she would specifically have engineered a marriage to William.

I wonder why misogyny is a current buzz word? Frankly I am not sure it is, and if it isn’t, it should be for obvious reasons!

And sorry but it is extremely misogynistic to suggest that it’s always the woman who is the schemer and social climber, implying that they have to scheme in order to gain a position in life, as opposed to a man who can work his way up. Especially when Carole at the time was running a highly successful business.

And if anyone was scheming, which I don’t think they were btw, who’s to say that it wasn’t K’s father? Men can be socially ambitious too - look at all the awards and honours they invented - it’s nonsense to suggest otherwise.

Honestly anyone who would even think this is either extremely stupid and/or riddled with jealousy and bitchiness about a woman they don’t even know.

A Prince couldn’t have possibly have really wanted to marry Kate, her mum orchestrated it?

As heir to the throne, I expect there would have been a lot of forethought about William’s future marriage, I highly doubt Kate, considering her class and social standing would have been thought of as a good choice by the palace courtiers.

So Carole Middleton, an air hostess, wielded more power than them?

William could have had anyone. He was very handsome when younger as well as being an intelligent Prince.

Kate is an intelligent woman. 11 GCSEs, 3 A Levels and a 2:1 degree. William has similar qualifications so neither are idiots. I very much doubt they were forced together. They seem to be on the same wavelength.

William made an excellent choice and they seem genuinely happy together bringing up lovely children with seemingly close relationships with both their respective families.

If anyone engineered a marriage to a Prince, it was MM and look how that turned out for the RF!

The fact is this story has been manufactured for years. He is literally rehashing a fairy tale. As a mother I know for a fact if I found a nice, eligible young bachelor/batchelorette for any of my kids they would do the complete opposite.
There is no way that Carole could have any part in their getting them together. It's absolutely baloney

I think it's a mistake to attribute 'misogyny' (which is very much a current buzz word)

It's very much a current, and old fashioned, thing...