Aibu to think it was not possible for Carole Middleton to engineer her daughters marriage?

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https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/royals/carole-middleton-master-plan/

Kate was staunchly middle class. The royals are notoriously snobby. Aibu to think that Carole did not & wouldn't be capable of engineering this? How the hell would she be able to do this?!

Does the book say exactlyhow she pulled off this minor miracle?

Since the Middletons seem to have aristocratic antecedents of their own, I don't think they actually give a toss. I would say that they wanted their daughter to be happy and being married into a goldfish bowl may not actually be their first choice. The Queen too was reported to be concerned that Kate loved William for himself and that is why she gave her blessing.

This book sounds like sour grapes IMHO

It's a shame for Natalie that she ever met Robert.

Course I flipping don't!

@Scruffington agreed! I'm not convinced he didnt murder her.

But they are the same year group. So to engineer it, they'd need to know where William was applying.
While the UCAS process might not apply to William, it would to Kate.

So she'd have to have known before making her a level choices to make select the right courses, then have predicted what subject and where William was applying for, then done the same.

With an application into St Andrews by January when I don't think it was announced where William would go until summer.

I'm sure she put herself in the right places to meet him but most people in his year probably did this. I don't think you can engineer anything beyond that and it was largely coincidence that presented the opportunity.

she is local and not at all nice as a person. nothing would surprise me to be honest

@Whataretheodds can you elaborate? Surely that makes it even more impossible to pull off such a feat?

Maybe it was coincidence the Raleigh thing.. why a mum would like her child to marry a royal? She could had marry someone rich without being royal and live a more private and free life..

I'm actually wondering if the Queen was the real Mrs Bennet. Maybe she put a bet on them getting engaged when it seemed a sure thing and was dismayed when they decided to go on a 'break' so sang K's praises every time she saw W after that.

not an iota of a mention its like she produced children all by herself!

I think you meant to tag @whatistheworld . Sadly I have no goss

I wish my mum had done that.

Kate’s shacked up in luxury in London/Norfolk/wherever the fuck she wants and here I am, a year older than her, and I ended up married to a toss bag of a plumber in the arse end of the West Midlands.

If Carole did have a hand in it, good on her.

Completely agree with this. I can’t understand why anyone would think that a mother would wish Kate’s life for their child! Carole would have spent the previous 20 years seeing Diana in the press desperately unhappy. Why would she think, oh yes, that’s the life for my Kate?!

True about Diana in the media, but William appeared to be a very different beast to Charles and the Middletons may have felt that he’d treat a wife in a kinder way. Just a hunch though.

Having said that, Charles got into Cambridge with 2 A-levels and no grade A :o)
Oh, and his bodyguard who went to all his lectures with him got a First and C didn't!

You must enjoy gloating about that, mikimoto.

I can imagine lots of parents being cock a hoop at the idea of their daughter marrying the heir to the throne. Millions of people are absolutely in thrall to royalty and to them the downsides of such a life would be worth it for the riches and perceived glory. I don't personally feel that way but I think it’s naïve to assume everyone would see Kate’s situation as something for their child to avoid.

Love this idea. HM the most pragmatically middle class of lot, after all, KM seems genuine yet steely, practically perfect in every way.

HM had common sense & the life exp to recognise a similar stalwart with integrity to boot. They prob bonded over the tupperware :)

I literally don't care. If she wanted this - and IMO her actions shout it from the rooftops - good for her.

Women want different things. I know the rules, I'd have married a prince too if one had come my way. And I'd have had favourite charities and all the tiaras and been OK with it all I think.

You win the internet. I know a woman whose openly pushed & strategised her kids lives. She’s writing a ‘guide’, Go her! Lol :)

She was possibly in the right place at the right time through design, but that’s about as far as it goes imo.

St Andrews has pretty high entrance requirements from what I understand. Not easy to get into at all.

I don't get why you'd want that, unless you were still nurturing every 5 year old's dream of being a "real princess".

If you want to marry someone famous, there are more famous people out there.
If you want to marry someone rich, there are richer people in the world.

But there is no other family where you would expect to micromanaged and dissected in the press for every move you make and have strict rules on everything to your nail varnish to your children's education. A work schedule that never stops and requires you to be travelling all over the world, often without your children. No right to express an opinion. It baffles me why anyone would choose it.

I think many people will have gone to St. Andrews because William was going. Does it matter? William will have know lots of them already, it's that sort of university.

I think her mother perhaps nudged Kate in William's direction, and certainly seemed happy to encourage the relationship. However, I'm sure that was also true for lots of pretty young women. As well as being a future king, William was very good looking in those days. He could have had his pick. But Kate was his choice. Noone could force that.

Why would any mother want her daughter to marry into the royal family? You'd have to be pretty sadistic.

There are some really nasty comments on here. Frankly if I was Carole Middleton at the moment I would be wishing that Kate had married someone else.

I'm finding all the Kate hate (not just on this thread) quite unpleasant. Considering there are hardly likely to be many (if any) people on here who know her and know her motivations it's quite incredible that so many appear to be so confident in their assertions.

Why do people get satisfaction out of being horrible to someone they don't even know?