Really regretting getting the Covid jab (warning pity party)

[FlemCandango]

I had my COVID vaccination on Saturday. I have had all the available boosters since lockdown as I have had some health issues that put me in a "slightly vulnerable to COVID" category.

Went to local chemist had the jab and a charity shop mooch, then came home all fine. 10-12 hours later I start feeling ropey. I know I might be in for a rough night as I have been known to react badly. So I had violent chills, followed by feverishness, crazy fever dreams, headache untouched by paracetamol, couldn't get out of bed for a wee without help, joint pain, nausea, loss of appetite ... This went on for 24 hours. I was still a wreck on Monday, so day off work, Tuesday tired but felt better and felt normal by the evening. I expected to be back at work today.

Then in the middle of the night, chills again I was shivering violently, headache returned plus sore throat and a cough. Most likely an opportunistic virus 🦠 but I am wondering why I put myself through all this🙄

Not sure if the net benefit outweighs the massively inconvenient time off work and feeling like shit-ness of it all.

I will think hard before taking the next booster if offered. I have the flu jab every year - never any issues with that one.

Anyone who says vaccine injury doesn’t exist isn’t worth listening to. Of course any vaccine can tragically lead to terrible harm. Even simple OTC drugs can (rarely) lead to terrible harm.

While I think people should be able to share their experiences (both positive and negative) about vaccines, it’s downright ridiculous to be advising others on what to do based on your limited experience. 🤨 Just to add, I know most people on here aren’t doing that but a small minority are doing this.

People should take advice (not from randomers online) and balance their own individual risks. Ultimately, you’re the one who has to live with the consequences.

Idiots who say “stop having unnecessary vaccines” are dangerous.
Idiots who refuse to research what they’re putting into their own body are dangerous too. By ‘research’, I mean ask their doctor or find out the pros and cons for their own individual risk group.

That said, anyone is entitled to be an idiot if they like. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Your body, your life, your choice.

I had no choice but to work, unfortunately. My limb strength was never affected (thank god) but I did use up all of my sick days because of the migraines and GP/A&E visits when I would get a flare up and couldn’t feel my hands/face and got put on a stage 3 warning because of it. I’ve since left the NHS.

With respect, you had extremely severe non stop symptoms that flared up after each vaccine for 2 years, and you were still able to work? Perform CPR etc ?

You were in the heart of the medical profession ? You've reported all this, right?

While I think people should be able to share their experiences (both positive and negative) about vaccines, it’s downright ridiculous to be advising others on what to do based on your limited experience. 🤨 Just to add, I know most people on here aren’t doing that but a small minority are doing this.

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Of course vaccine injury exists. So does the small but appreciable risk of dying under general anaesthetic, so do side effects of almost all medications. Does that mean my grandmother, 84, shouldn’t have her breast cancer tumour removed next week? Does that mean I should stop taking my meds? Sometimes there are decisions we need to make while taking into consideration a small risk, but it will contribute to an overall benefit for the community. If everyone had refused to take the Covid vaccine because they were worried about side effects, what would have been the point of even producing it?
Also, I’ve never seen a claim that it reduces transmission (except maybe by Johnson but you can automatically assume he’s lying). It reduces the severity of the illness.

Anyone who says vaccine injury doesn’t exist isn’t worth listening to. Of course any vaccine can tragically lead to terrible harm. Even simple OTC drugs can (rarely) lead to terrible harm

…and this is the truth that gets twisted. No doctor and/or scientist is going to give 100% guarantees about (any) vaccinations (or anything medical). They are aware there is a margin of error and variables that can’t be foreseen so will withhold guaranteeing anything and present pros/cons and statistical likelihoods.

Most Vaccine injury is statistical bad luck in that a bad outcome couldn’t have been foreseen. Rarely it is down to human error - I have met precisely one person in my forty years with life changing injuries from a bad batch of childhood vaccinations.

Amongst the anecdotes about Covid vaccines in particular are people’s opinions of how, what are often classed as mild, side effects are personally unacceptable to them. Completely reasonable decision to take as an individual but not something that should be used by anyone else to gauge whether or not they have any vaccine. Especially when the mild side effects are noted in lots of literature and warned of in advance.

if the rarer side effects are of concern, it’s a doctor people need to be speaking to.

I have met precisely one person in my forty years with life changing injuries from a bad batch of childhood vaccinations

I have a life changing injury from the Covid vaccine. Now housebound and unable to do anything.

Across the population the vaccine was a breeze.

It must be even more devastating when you are then one of the unlucky few who have a reaction.

And to add insult to injury when every thread that you want to participate in, gets hi jacked by anti consensus medicine types, call them what you want, who are so clearly free loading on your experience.

They exist. There is no doubt. And come slithering over to any thread about vaccines.

And they have sucked away much of the sympathy and consideration for true victims of vaccine injury.

Oh, that old chestnut.

It's not spreading 'fear' at all - it's about people having ALL the 'information' in order to give 'informed' consent. Which you and I both know wasn't the case for this jab, where people were coerced, bullied and offered everything from kebabs to blow-jobs to take it!

No matter how many doses have been administered, the fact is people HAVE been seriously harmed - and worse! - from taking this jab.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that frankly needs their head examined.

Which you and I both know wasn't the case for this jab, where people were coerced, bullied and offered everything from kebabs to blow-jobs to take it!

just got a letter in these parts 😄

*Oh, that old chestnut.

It's not spreading 'fear' at all - it's about people having ALL the 'information' in order to give 'informed' consent. Which you and I both know wasn't the case for this jab, where people were coerced, bullied and offered everything from kebabs to blow-jobs to take it!

No matter how many doses have been administered, the fact is people HAVE been seriously harmed - and worse! - from taking this jab.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that frankly needs their head examined.*

Yep some people have been harmed. Who said they weren't?

And the old " coerced and bullied" chestnut.

But the alternative to some people having an adverse reaction to a vaccine, which is awful and can ruin your life, would have been to avoid inoculating people and let a virus which still wasn’t fully understood run riot among the same group of people. It wasn’t ideal but something needed to be done ASAP. And somehow it’s always the vaccine injury people and not the long covid sufferers or Covid dead who are raising their voices.

One problem is an experience for someone else doesn’t really help anyone make a decision as it’s so individual

I'm not saying you shouldn't be sure about what you are putting in your body, but as a long time contraceptive pill taker, and someone who reacts quite badly with 'normal' side effects with antibiotics, plus an occasional taker of another necessary medication that has nasty side effects, it sure is interesting to see people hone in on the jab like this.
When people go 'people have been severely harmed from the jab!'
Yep, and women have been dying from taking the contraceptive pill for years, and people do die of random reactions to medications regularly, including anaesthetic, and with Covid you have a much bigger pool of people taking it than other medications, therefore you will know more cases of adverse side effects, so.... not sure what some people on this threads point is tbh.

I think there's a bit of an " anti vax " agitation industry.

Which makes it really hard on people who have suffered effects .

And like you say people have suffered the negative effects of a range medical interventions over the years. It's the nature of the beast.

I’m genuinely sorry to read that. I hope you’re currently comfortable and finding ways to manage.

to clarify, I was just illustrating people I had personally met. Realistically we rarely know the cause of disabilities in people we meet unless we’re a position of confidante or for practical reasons we need that kind of information. I also know a couple of, now adults, children who suffered birth injuries a result of interventions or lack of, with devastating consequences. I may have had their situations in mind when I went to give birth but I don’t think people treat those statistically rare instances in the same way they do vaccine injuries in recent years.

had violent chills, followed by feverishness, crazy fever dreams, headache untouched by paracetamol, couldn't get out of bed for a wee without help, joint pain, nausea, loss of appetite ... This went on for 24 hours.

This wasn't (can't have been) the vaccination. You were unwell - a coincidence. It wasn't caused by the jab.

Yes it was. I had exactly the same after each 4 jabs.

It could well have been but equally, people have different tolerances and different ways of physiologically dealing with illness.

@CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau The claim the vaccine reduces transmission was made constantly in 2021. It was a major reason I got it as I did not want to pass it on to anyone vulnerable. It gave me severe myocarditis and now I am vulnerable.
“Also, I’ve never seen a claim that it reduces transmission (except maybe by Johnson but you can automatically assume he’s lying). It reduces the severity of the illness.”

@Nightmarerels

Have you reported?

This is true, particularly on the scale of those who took the vaccination versus other meds with side effects. The number of injuries does not point to it being ultra rare. I was hospitalized with myocarditis shortly after (reported by the cardiologist as a vaccine injury). I was not the only one at the hospital with it. A colleague on a small team had it. The Dr’s partner had it. Etc. The risks may be worth it for some groups, but there has to be informed consent and I wonder how rare it really is. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9304948/

Yes. It was reported by the cardiologist who treated me at the hospital. He had also treated others with it. Horrified there were not warnings so we did not give informed consent.

@Nightmarerels i acknowledge your point but yes, there were warnings for anyone paying attention at all about the vaccine.

This is why we cannot have a balanced discussion on MN. We get comments, however tongue in cheek, like this.
or tongue somewhere…… 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The claim vaccination reduced transmission was true to some extent in 2021 and was backed up by initial data. The emergence of a dominant variant that was heavily mutated from the initial virus the vaccine was developed from (and that was the initial wuhan sample I believe) showed a lessened sterilising effect from the vaccine. It still showed/shows a good effect on severity of the virus.

It’s arguable that reduced duration of any infection will reduce transmission opportunities as a side effect but I’d imagine that a shorter asymptomatic infection cancels out any gains there as those people will still be socialising if not feeling any different.