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Really regretting getting the Covid jab (warning pity party)

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FlemCandango · 29/11/2023 12:27

I had my COVID vaccination on Saturday. I have had all the available boosters since lockdown as I have had some health issues that put me in a "slightly vulnerable to COVID" category.

Went to local chemist had the jab and a charity shop mooch, then came home all fine. 10-12 hours later I start feeling ropey. I know I might be in for a rough night as I have been known to react badly. So I had violent chills, followed by feverishness, crazy fever dreams, headache untouched by paracetamol, couldn't get out of bed for a wee without help, joint pain, nausea, loss of appetite ... This went on for 24 hours. I was still a wreck on Monday, so day off work, Tuesday tired but felt better and felt normal by the evening. I expected to be back at work today.

Then in the middle of the night, chills again I was shivering violently, headache returned plus sore throat and a cough. Most likely an opportunistic virus 🦠 but I am wondering why I put myself through all this🙄

Not sure if the net benefit outweighs the massively inconvenient time off work and feeling like shit-ness of it all.

I will think hard before taking the next booster if offered. I have the flu jab every year - never any issues with that one.

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GreekDogRescue · 08/12/2023 19:19

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/12/2023 21:18

It’s interesting that you can tell an anti vaxxer by the use of the word ‘jibbyjab’

It’s interesting that you can tell a pro establishment pro-lockdown stooge by their inability to accept that anybody might raise any questions about the SaFe and EffEcTiVe jab.

Most of these establishment types work from home, believe fervently in lockdowns yet still expect low paid Amazon delivery drivers and supermarket workers to bear the brunt of the ‘deadly’ virus.

How many jabs is it now? 7? 8?

Do you feel safe yet?

Are you still keeping to your ‘ bubble’?

Are you still doing everything that Dr Hilary tells you?

are you dismayed that Mariana Spring, head of the BBC’s DiSinFoRmaTioN UniT is a proven liar who made up porky pies in her CV?

Are you still washing your shopping?

Are those of us reporting vaccine injuries all ConSpiraCY ThEorists, or do you admit there have been some deaths and injuries but these are pretty unimportant in the scheme of things.

So many questions 💉

GreekDogRescue · 08/12/2023 19:22

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 05/12/2023 17:48

I haven’t bothered with this thread since saying that properly qualified advice about vaccines should be followed.

Note properly qualified: many years of medical training, publicly checkable qualification and specialism should be preferred to randoms on the internet telling tales of their and others’ assumptions about vaccine reaction.

But having read the half-witted anti-vaxx nonsense for several pages I do feel that some straight talking is in order.

MN shouldn’t allow these threads. MN wouldn’t allow calls to expose children or adults to risk from abuse, fire, car accidents, and so on. So why are these ridiculous anti-vaxx threads tolerated? They condone exposure to the risk of very serious infectious disease.

What ‘properly qualified’ advice would that be?
The ‘properly qualified’ advice you agree with or the ‘properly qualified’ advice from established medics that challenges your world view?

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 08/12/2023 19:29

GreekDogRescue · 08/12/2023 19:22

What ‘properly qualified’ advice would that be?
The ‘properly qualified’ advice you agree with or the ‘properly qualified’ advice from established medics that challenges your world view?

I assume there are a few anti-vaxx cranks in the medical profession.

Run into their arms by all means.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/12/2023 19:40

GreekDogRescue · 08/12/2023 19:19

It’s interesting that you can tell a pro establishment pro-lockdown stooge by their inability to accept that anybody might raise any questions about the SaFe and EffEcTiVe jab.

Most of these establishment types work from home, believe fervently in lockdowns yet still expect low paid Amazon delivery drivers and supermarket workers to bear the brunt of the ‘deadly’ virus.

How many jabs is it now? 7? 8?

Do you feel safe yet?

Are you still keeping to your ‘ bubble’?

Are you still doing everything that Dr Hilary tells you?

are you dismayed that Mariana Spring, head of the BBC’s DiSinFoRmaTioN UniT is a proven liar who made up porky pies in her CV?

Are you still washing your shopping?

Are those of us reporting vaccine injuries all ConSpiraCY ThEorists, or do you admit there have been some deaths and injuries but these are pretty unimportant in the scheme of things.

So many questions 💉

So many questions

Yes, what a pointless list of questions you present.

If you bother to read my posts, I’ve had a severe vaccine injury.

But l still support vaccines. Or ‘jibbyjabs’

GreekDogRescue · 08/12/2023 19:46

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/12/2023 19:40

So many questions

Yes, what a pointless list of questions you present.

If you bother to read my posts, I’ve had a severe vaccine injury.

But l still support vaccines. Or ‘jibbyjabs’

I’ve had vaccines myself.
My dogs are vaxxed.
Ergo I am not an ‘anti vaxxer’ as you claimed.
Just because somebody queries the safety and efficacy of the covid jab does not mean they are an ‘anti vaxxer’.
Insulting and patronising people will not bring people round to your point of view, whatever that is.

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 08/12/2023 20:25

My dogs are vaxxed.

Oh well, that’s all resolved then. Clearly Rex and Fido will jump on the thread to deny you’re an anti-vaxxer.

GreekDogRescue · 08/12/2023 21:52

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 08/12/2023 20:25

My dogs are vaxxed.

Oh well, that’s all resolved then. Clearly Rex and Fido will jump on the thread to deny you’re an anti-vaxxer.

I don’t know why pro vax extremists are so desperate to shut down anybody who has concerns about the covid vaccination by throwing around puerile insults.

Its like you’re part of some crazy conspiratorial cult.

Or do you have shares in AstraZeneca? Bad luck if you have. I hear they’re dealing with quite a few lawsuits. Dear oh dear.

sunglassesonthetable · 08/12/2023 23:19

Its like you’re part of some crazy conspiratorial cult.

😉 😆 Indeed.

WhileMyDishwasherGentlyWeeps · 08/12/2023 23:38

GreekDogRescue · 08/12/2023 21:52

I don’t know why pro vax extremists are so desperate to shut down anybody who has concerns about the covid vaccination by throwing around puerile insults.

Its like you’re part of some crazy conspiratorial cult.

Or do you have shares in AstraZeneca? Bad luck if you have. I hear they’re dealing with quite a few lawsuits. Dear oh dear.

🙄

Teder · 09/12/2023 00:08

LittleMissSunshiner · 05/12/2023 18:01

Do you know how many scores of different types of covid jab that all worked differently and had different secret formulas were developed around the world?

In 2022 I started to research and found over different labs around the world making at least 120 various covid jabs that were being given to the local populations.

Here in the UK we were subjected to three or four different options - the AZ jab was quietly withdrawn after it was proven it caused blood clots. So people who had jab 1 & 2 AZ were just told oh you're having Pfzr for 3rd.

These jabs had typically one of four different ways of working - MRNA / de-activated adenovirus from monkeys etc and they bore no relation to one another. Some people had all of one brand, some people had a total mixture, some people went on youtube taking every type of jab they could get from all around the world.

How is any of this madness possibly scientific? I'm not anti-vax, I'm anti-insanity and anti-bad science. No-one was allowed to speak about this or they had their social media accounts taken down. No news channels allowed open debate and discussion. People who said they weren't sure about jabs were called murderers and racists.

Personally I refused all jabs after several friends who worked for the NHS or were carers and got them in priority became very unwell - one had a blood clot in their lower leg and the hospital declared it caused from the jab.

I held off and decided only to take a jab if it was made mandatory which it never was. I've never had covid and I get regularly tested due to hospital appts. I've never once tested positive even when had colds. People I know who are taking the latest jabs this autumn are all getting ill and then getting covid and testing positive. I dunno, that seems very odd to me.

“The AX jab was quietly withdrawn.”

Talk about rewriting history.

There was - rightly - significant media coverage and attention. It quickly became apparent it was no longer appropriate to administer the AS vaccine to certain high risk groups. It wasn’t quiet; I was in the age group, you could not bloody miss it. The media coverage was huge and this was the right course of action.

”People I know who are taking the latest jabs this autumn are all getting ill and then getting covid and testing positive. I dunno, that seems very odd to me.”

You said you’re anti bad science which is fair enough but then you share bad science yourself.

People should never feel obligated to have a vaccine but people shouldn’t be sharing incorrect information under the guise of wanting to educate people.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/12/2023 00:41

*It’s interesting that you can tell a pro establishment pro-lockdown stooge by their inability to accept that anybody might raise any questions about the SaFe and EffEcTiVe jab.

Most of these establishment types work from home, believe fervently in lockdowns yet still expect low paid Amazon delivery drivers and supermarket workers to bear the brunt of the ‘deadly’ virus.

How many jabs is it now? 7? 8?

Do you feel safe yet?

Are you still keeping to your ‘ bubble’?

Are you still doing everything that Dr Hilary tells you?

are you dismayed that Mariana Spring, head of the BBC’s DiSinFoRmaTioN UniT is a proven liar who made up porky pies in her CV?

Are you still washing your shopping?

Are those of us reporting vaccine injuries all ConSpiraCY ThEorists, or do you admit there have been some deaths and injuries but these are pretty unimportant in the scheme of things. *

it's interesting you can't even get your facts straight on this thread. You're delivering this jIBby JaB rant to someone who IS vaccine injured.

I'm guessing @ArseInTheCoOpWindow has raised a load of questions. She knows there have been injuries! Pretty sure its extremely important to her. And frankly as far as real credible information goes, she's way ahead of you. You should be asking her the questions.

Honest to god, inhale your COviD VAx bingo card and take your foot out of your mouth.

@GreekDogRescue

spuddel · 09/12/2023 01:26

I'm pretty much pro all vax except this, simply because my GP advised against it with my autoimmune conditions but if I am honest I was against it anyway. I couldn't understand why it went from 'inject the elderly and vulnerable' to unlock to stay in your house and take all jabs no matter your risk. I smelled a rat, you can call me what ever you like, anti vax? Sure. Anti forced medication, I am here for it. I am as invested as everyone that I hope we are out of this madness, and my entire extended family took these vaccines so I pray they are as safe and effective as they were sold. What I will say is. Pfizer got EUA for a VACCINE TO PREVENT COVID. Did that happen? Meanwhile 25% of pfizer vaccinated have random proteins going on. Not good.

CouchCat · 09/12/2023 02:51

@spuddel

Meanwhile 25% of pfizer vaccinated have random proteins going on. Not good.

Did you know that your own body has been doing this since you were born? Your DNA contains instructions to manufacture proteins that scientists know nothing about. These proteins are modified and eventually destroyed by the body. Has this been a concern to you, too?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/12/2023 08:20

GreekDogRescue · 08/12/2023 19:46

I’ve had vaccines myself.
My dogs are vaxxed.
Ergo I am not an ‘anti vaxxer’ as you claimed.
Just because somebody queries the safety and efficacy of the covid jab does not mean they are an ‘anti vaxxer’.
Insulting and patronising people will not bring people round to your point of view, whatever that is.

Yeah, but you just insulted me in your earlier post.

So you’re still talking crap.

If you’re questioning the jab and don’t take it you’re an anti-vaxxer. It’s that simple.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/12/2023 08:43

And it’s people like you who are preventing me getting the help l need.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 09/12/2023 08:56

Guys, let’s bring the debate back to the topic? Nobody is actually going to be harmed by being called an anti-vaxxer (just as racists are not harmed by being called out). I personally hate the term anyway. But the key point is that all medical procedures have risks and benefits. Sometimes - quite often in fact, I’m pro-vaccine but no lover of pharma companies - the risks and benefits of a drug aren’t fully understood until the drug has been rolled out to the general public. In this case, we had a disease causing a huge amount of suffering and death and measures in place to control its spread which were ruining people’s lives. Anything that might be able to mitigate that was welcome. I wasn’t entirely happy with the “it’s totally safe, will prevent the disease and everyone can go back to normal” narrative, but that doesn’t mean the vaccine was a bad thing and unfortunately sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good. It’s horrible that some people have been injured by the vaccine, but I’d bet my last penny that there are thousands more with long COVID.

whyhere · 09/12/2023 09:13

Rarely post these days, but you've drawn me in :-)

Why does it have to be either-or? As an ex-nurse I am very pro vaccines. However, I have had medical confirmation that the two long-term issues I now have to live with (alopecia and tinnitus, so hardly life-threatening) were caused by the second jab. I will continue to have the boosters.

Teder · 09/12/2023 09:28

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/12/2023 08:43

And it’s people like you who are preventing me getting the help l need.

I highly doubt a random poster on MN is blocking access to medical treatment and/or a compensation fund. I understand it’s easier to blame others but we should not be fighting, we should be looking to this government and the powers that be.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/12/2023 09:35

Teder · 09/12/2023 09:28

I highly doubt a random poster on MN is blocking access to medical treatment and/or a compensation fund. I understand it’s easier to blame others but we should not be fighting, we should be looking to this government and the powers that be.

No you are incorrect.

Doctors at Harvard and Yale amongst others were too afraid to be open about Vaccine induced long covid as they thought it would be hijacked by anti vaxxers. It’s only just coming into the open now, and the medical community are still very hesitant to be open about it. Because it would be taken up by anti vaxxers.

If it had been disclosed as soon as it was discovered, people like me might have had a cure instead of being housebound/bedbound.

l do blame them. My life was destroyed, and their crazy behaviour has prevented me from aging treatment.

So, thank you for you trite little comment. But you know what? I hold them almost entirely responsible.

It was their behaviour that caused a sub on Reddit which had 10,000 vax injured on it to be pulled.

It’s their behaviour that makes talking about vaccine injuries akin to heresy.

You bet l blame them.

Teder · 09/12/2023 09:38

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/12/2023 09:35

No you are incorrect.

Doctors at Harvard and Yale amongst others were too afraid to be open about Vaccine induced long covid as they thought it would be hijacked by anti vaxxers. It’s only just coming into the open now, and the medical community are still very hesitant to be open about it. Because it would be taken up by anti vaxxers.

If it had been disclosed as soon as it was discovered, people like me might have had a cure instead of being housebound/bedbound.

l do blame them. My life was destroyed, and their crazy behaviour has prevented me from aging treatment.

So, thank you for you trite little comment. But you know what? I hold them almost entirely responsible.

It was their behaviour that caused a sub on Reddit which had 10,000 vax injured on it to be pulled.

It’s their behaviour that makes talking about vaccine injuries akin to heresy.

You bet l blame them.

I don’t know why you call it a ”trite little comment” because I have not once been impolite to you on this thread.

I do think the government should be funding services and support for vaccine injured people. I don’t know what else to say.

People like me saying the above and supporting it doesn’t make it happen. We need those with power to do something and I genuinely hope it does.

Jumpingthruhoops · 09/12/2023 10:35

So, according to this thread, Twitter silencing the opinions of Harvard and Stanford-educated doctors was absolutely NOT to blame for people being uniformed about vaccine harms.
But anti-vaxxers are 100% to blame for a vax injury information being removed from Reddit? Sorry but that is complete bollocks!

I suspect the real reason 'anti-vaxxers' are still being blamed is because they had the foresight not to take it. That must really annoy people.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/12/2023 10:51

! suspect the real reason 'anti-vaxxers' are still being blamed is because they had the foresight not to take it. That must really annoy people.

Why 🤷‍♀️ It's a free country? I don't feel annoyed at anyone who didn't take the vaccine. Not that I know many. Two I think.

I get annoyed by posters making false statements. And claiming superior knowledge to consensus medicine.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/12/2023 10:52

So, according to this thread, Twitter silencing the opinions of Harvard and Stanford-educated doctors was absolutely NOT to blame for people being uniformed about vaccine harms.
But anti-vaxxers are 100% to blame for a vax injury information being removed from Reddit? Sorry but that is complete bollocks!

You're a very black and white thinker aren't you.

Those are just two possible opinions on this thread.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/12/2023 10:56

Jumpingthruhoops · 09/12/2023 10:35

So, according to this thread, Twitter silencing the opinions of Harvard and Stanford-educated doctors was absolutely NOT to blame for people being uniformed about vaccine harms.
But anti-vaxxers are 100% to blame for a vax injury information being removed from Reddit? Sorry but that is complete bollocks!

I suspect the real reason 'anti-vaxxers' are still being blamed is because they had the foresight not to take it. That must really annoy people.

Yeah, it was seen as fuelling the anti vax fire.

So yeah, l do hold anti vaxxers responsible. They’re rabid enough without giving them something like this to grab onto.

Teder · 09/12/2023 10:59

Jumpingthruhoops · 09/12/2023 10:35

So, according to this thread, Twitter silencing the opinions of Harvard and Stanford-educated doctors was absolutely NOT to blame for people being uniformed about vaccine harms.
But anti-vaxxers are 100% to blame for a vax injury information being removed from Reddit? Sorry but that is complete bollocks!

I suspect the real reason 'anti-vaxxers' are still being blamed is because they had the foresight not to take it. That must really annoy people.

Your last statement is very unkind to those who were vaccine injured and have been posting on this thread.

Do you really think the average Joe/Jo truly cares if a randomer does or not get vaccinated? Like most people, I care about my loved ones first and foremost. I expect the vast majority of people are focused on the people in their life.