Genuine weird thought since my mate’s granddad told me asylum seekers get housed in 5 star hoteos

[Libertyy]

What would actually happen if I, British born citizen, returned from holiday on a boat to bypass immigration and claimed to be an asylum seeker, would they even know? When would I expect my 5 star hotel 🧐🧐😏

Not light hearted to pass son your friend's granddad's bigoted and incorrect views.

Not lighthearted to mock refugees desperate enough to seek asylum in this manner.

Pretty nasty post.

Well the last time I stayed in the The Red Cow Moran hotel it was beautiful, it was during covid and I was staying to attend a hospital appointment the next morning. It was closed to the public very shortly afterwards.

https://www.redcowmoranhotel.com/photo-gallery

Also, I'm fed up of reading how I must be compassionate about their heroic quests to flee the war torn, third world apocalypse that is France. This is all rubbish.

All political parties are waving them in because (partially) of lower European immigration and our birth rate is decreasing. So don't worry about them. The government are using our taxes to settle them in and take care of them. It's planned.

Whatever hotel you might be temporarily housed in as an asylum seeker, as soon as you're granted refugee status, you'll be kicked out with 7 days notice to find a home (it was 28 days notice until recently). Don't worry though - there are charities who can give you a tent to sleep in on the street.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/were-going-to-see-people-dying-on-the-streets-homeless-refugee-crisis-grips-liverpool

Sorry if it's not as light hearted as you wished, but fleeing everything you know because of torture only to end up freezing on the streets is 21st century British values in action I guess.

However they are essentially ruining their own business. So something is behind that.

Leave your inane racist conspiracy theories out of this, thanks

You have absolutely zero reading comprehension.

Why is it racist to point out the level of accommodation they are given? Or that they get more to live on than many British people, especially those let down by the disability benefits system? However it's a process issue caused by another lack of government funding.
Liverpool is in financial crisis again because we don't get the budget to run out city and taking the amount of asylum seekers that we do, has worsened that. Food banks can't meet the needs, we have more charities putting on free meals and somewhere warm to sit or the hospitals would be full of people just suffering because of poverty. The threads about the government waging war on disabled people always goes the complete opposite to threads about asylum seekers.

Don’t worry OP. It was blatantly obvious that you were sending up your grandad’s views in a jokey way.

You’ve had some really dim witted replies.

Report your own thread, OP.
I get what you were trying to do but it hasn't worked.
Too many people not engaging in the spirit you meant it.

I don't think that it is a conspiracy, these things are planned years in advance. Really lucky that at a time when the Torys wanted rid of the Human rights act and reducing workers rights down as far as possible, we have to look at countries for immigration, that have neither.

££££££ that's all.

And the refit they get paid for at the end of the contract.

Considering most of the hotels have needed a refit for years and many hotels were teetering on the brink of bankruptcy when this all started they're doing pretty well out of it. Maybe not as well as the intermediary companies who have the contracts with their Tory mates to run it all though.

Some quite nice ones. I’ve used the spa and pool in one of the hotels used for asylum seekers where I live!

Why is it racist to point out the level of accommodation they are given? Or that they get more to live on than many British people, especially those let down by the disability benefits system?

Neither is true.

Not at all. Calling someone a racist for pointing out something that is actually factually true (and not even knowing what race that person is themselves or what race the asylum seekers are), is pathetic, unintelligent, boring and tiresome.

I suppose that’s the level some people sink to to shut down discussion though.

I know someone who works with people in these hotels , horrible places! Even if they normally are 5 star they are not offering that service to this group, they have more basic rooms for staff and cabin crew that they use but mostly people ard in utter shitholes with cockroaches

I think that was my point! Financial issues, or dwindling reputation/needing re fits that they cant afford which would see their customer base ebbing away.

However the stories below also make me wonder if some hotel owners are simply also genuinely trying to help out a broken system. Perhaps?

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2023/01/23/severe-pressure-on-accommodation-capacity-to-blame-for-moving-refugees-from-red-cow-overnight-department/

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shameful-scenes-as-asylum-seekers-forced-to-sleep-on-floor-of-dublin-hotel/41745513.html

That's one of those things you don't say out loud, much less in a public forum.

English is my third language and even I got that OP is taking piss of people believing life of luxury for asylum seekers not making fun of the asylum seekers, nor that she believes it....

The only people she seems to be attracting are the ones who are too thick to realise it was piss take of the grandads views.

I do wonder of the psychology of people replying like this. Are they really so desperate to feel morally superior that they are primed to misinterpret really obvious stuff like this?

It doesn’t reflect well on them anyway.

It's 2023. You can no longer use "racist" to shut down frank discussion.

I am not arguing whether "uncontrolled" immigration is right or wrong. It's Irrelevant. I am saying it's government policy to increase immigration, irrespective of who's in power, because our birth rate and worker base is decreasing.

That is a fact. It's happening across the majority of developed nations.

I’m guessing this won’t last

@Libertyy wouldn't it fail on biometrics wven before the Brits would got the the imaginary 5* hotel though to extend holidays?

Sounds like great replacement bollocks to me. Which is a racist conspiracy theory.

This government hates immigrants. I don't know why you can't see that.

Sounds like great replacement bollocks to me. Which is a racist conspiracy theory

No it doesn’t! It sounds like economics! There are vital sectors, like the care home sectors, that are heavily reliant on people from overseas to fill posts. That’s not ‘replacement’, it’s that they can’t find enough UK citizens who are willing to do these jobs!

Or for more specialized jobs, like health jobs in the NHS, the government has completely failed in its recruitment strategy, meaning staff are retiring without there being enough younger staff coming in to fill posts. Hence again a need to recruit overseas. Again, NOT replacement.