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He's hesitant about committing to a mortgage with me after years

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Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 17:20

Lived together for 3 years and together for nearly 4, renting. He's mentioned wanting to own a home many times, not necessarily with me but just wanting to not have to pay rent and to have a place to call your own.
We're in the North and only looking at modest properties, i.e 90k max. We've got enough for a 5% deposit and also have enough for shared ownership schemes we've looked at.
We currently pay £1050 for all rent, utilities and CT so frankly a mortgage would probably be cheaper and for a bigger home.
I started talking earlier about making an appointment on Monday and he started to show hesitation, saying, ahh I just don't know, it's such a huge thing to think about, I just really don't know.
The other issue is area. We could get a lot more for our money in another area but he will not budge. He said he'd move within a 5 mile radius roughly but that's it.
Another issue is a pet. I've wanted a cat for a while, I've owned cats before and I wouldn't even expect him to look after it, but he won't have any sort of pet. I even suggested a goldfish but he wasn't keen.
I ended up telling him I feel that nothing is ever on my terms and he said he's sorry. I also feel sad that even after several years of living together he's clearly hesitant to enter into a mortgage with me.

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Thehouseofmarvels · 26/11/2023 18:31

@Melindamessenger1 It's really common for men to drift along with an ok for now woman but refuse to seriously commit, then eventually meet and marry someone really quickly, often after the first woman has sacrificed her fertility. Seen it on here so many times.

Duckling89 · 26/11/2023 18:32

I met my DH when I was 29, so a few years younger than you. We got married after 3 1/2 years and are now expecting a baby. I literally wasted my twenties waiting for men who wouldn’t commit, but when I met DH we were completely on the same page about what we wanted. If you really want children, that would be the deciding factor for me - don’t waste any more of your fertile years on him!

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:32

Why? It's so callous, I don't get it.

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Duckling89 · 26/11/2023 18:34

What’s callous? Do you mean your boyfriend? I doubt he’s being deliberately cruel, but I’ve seen a lot of men string along a girlfriend because it’s an easy life, but then get cold feet when there’s marriage/buying houses/babies because they don’t really want to commit to it.

Whiskerson · 26/11/2023 18:35

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:32

Why? It's so callous, I don't get it.

They won't think of it as intentional. It just suits them for as long as it suits them, and they don't have the same ticking clock that we do that makes us not want to waste time. Men can be bloody lazy for a long time, as long as their basic needs are being met.

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:36

No sorry I mean men in general who do this.

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Conkersinautumn · 26/11/2023 18:36

Because, bluntly, its cheaper to live that way and they like sex.

Toolongtohols · 26/11/2023 18:36

It’s really common . My friends boy had a convenient girlfriend who he dumped as soon as he got his inheritance and bought a house . She was lovely and decent - he was ruthless

Chowtime · 26/11/2023 18:36

I think a lot of women think that a man moving in with them is committing himself to her and is making the first step towards marriage, home ownership and starting a family. I think the men just think it's really convenient, cheap and with lots of free sex, care and housekeeping thrown in.

In reality it's marriage thats the commitment. Don't be so quick to move in with men. It's also OK not to live with your boyfriend.

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:37

You're spot on there. I won't be moving in until (and if) there's ever a proposal, if there's a next time.

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YouJustDoYou · 26/11/2023 18:37

OP I'm sorry but, he's just not that into you.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 26/11/2023 18:38

You're a convenience to him. As soon as you start asking for any kind of commitment, he's backing off. I'd get rid. Buy on your own if you can.

Whiskerson · 26/11/2023 18:38

Conkersinautumn · 26/11/2023 18:36

Because, bluntly, its cheaper to live that way and they like sex.

Ha, better and more concisely phrased than what I wrote!

Whattodowithit88 · 26/11/2023 18:38

What don’t you get? His not trying to be callous, he probably doesn’t want to hurt you either with the truth. This is why actions speak louder than words.

His comfortable at the moment, a girlfriend, sex, someone to live and share bills with, so why would he give that up sooner than he has too? You might see that as callous but his just doing what women should be doing too, and that’s looking out for themselves and doing what they what benefits them.

He is not wrong to not be on the same page as you, that’s fine and people get there in their own time but the problem is the lying, the future faking. Pretending his on the same page as you when he is not. Find someone who is on the same page as you.

Duckling89 · 26/11/2023 18:39

It all depends what you want though - if you’re not bothered about marriage, property ownership, babies - then you have more options. However women unfortunately do have a deadline if they want those things! There’s nothing wrong with wanting commitment and children either, but you have to be honest to yourself and brave enough to walk away if he won’t commit and you really want those things.

Whiskerson · 26/11/2023 18:39

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:37

You're spot on there. I won't be moving in until (and if) there's ever a proposal, if there's a next time.

Good for you! Now you're finding your strength, well done.

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:40

But then I said to him 'could you 100% see yourself getting a mortgage with me?' he said 'I reckon I could '. I said this after I got upset about his hesitation, so he probably just said it to keep the peace.

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Toolongtohols · 26/11/2023 18:40

Good luck OP ..

BIossomtoes · 26/11/2023 18:41

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 17:53

All I know is that he's got zero debt and saves several hundred a month. The mortgage and bills would be slightly less than we pay now.

If he saves several hundred a month why have you only got a £4.5k deposit? As a pp says, he doesn’t see you in his future. Time to go it alone with your cat.

PaminaMozart · 26/11/2023 18:41

What @Chowtime said.

@Melindamessenger1 - you need to walk away. He is not the right man for you. You are not on the same page, not now, not ever. His needs and wants will always come first.

Don't do it!

Draconis · 26/11/2023 18:43

Op if you want children then you may need to call a day with this one as he does not want a long term future with you.
If you stay with him, it'll be one of those stories where you hang on to him, hoping he'll change his mind then he'll leave and have a baby with someone else pretty quick.
Honestly, it happens so often.

StillWantingADog · 26/11/2023 18:43

Buy without him if you possibly can. If you still really think you have a future (I doubt it tbh) he could become your lodger. That’s what my dh did a year or so before we bought together.

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:46

We've got a bit over 5%, he actually has more in me than savings. I only recently changed to a much better paying job so I've only started saving the last couple of months. I'd be happy for it to be mainly in his name if his deposit is higher of course.

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Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:47

The thing is when I talk about moving on he gets upset. I know it's probably that he likes having me around and enjoys my company and the benefits of a girlfriend though.

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GreatGateauxsby · 26/11/2023 18:48

Melindamessenger1 · 26/11/2023 18:15

Thank you. I'm 32, few months off 33.

And you want kids and he has a loads of lame excuses about timing????
You don’t have time to mess about now

honestly… buy alone and force his hand on this.

dont let him move in without a proper proposal and date for a wedding agreed.
when he won’t get out there and find someone decent who wants to build a life with you.

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