What’s expected to happen if Labour wins the next election?

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What changes do we “normal people” expect to see? Better nhs? More taxes?

Higher taxes, and an even more incompetent approach than the current lot of dunderheads!

Impossible. Taxes are the highest for 70 years right now.

That does make it impossible for them to rise further

Doesn’t

I’m expecting higher taxes and 20% increase in school fees: so will be cutting the hours of everyone we engage in the home (cleaners, ironing lady, gardeners, window cleaners, PT).

Will also be moving dd1 to state sixth form and am currently forking out huge amounts on tutoring for GCSE’s so she can get the highest marks possible as local state sixth form is a grammar and simply selects on grades.

Huge numbers of her private school classmates doing exactly the same so a great number of children expecting to progress to sixth form will be blocked by the huge influx of private school kids tutored to the max.

Will also happen at year 7 entry point too - dc previously destined for private school will be expensively tutored and take the grammar school places.

have even had a few friends talk about moving to be pretty much outside the school gates of non-grammar top state secondaries so within catchment - they can easily afford it if they’re opting out of the private school system.

meanwhile the dd2 private school is cutting scholarships and bursaries so the funded places for those on lower incomes are disappearing.

Less people going to private school, reducing the social divide a little is a win.
More taxes, hopefully of richer people will lead to more public spending and improving schools, NHS all a win.
It will be a loss if you are rich but that's only about 5
To 10% of people, who will still be rich just not quite as rich 🎻

Exactly.

Really is depressing

Men to be allowed in women's spaces.

That's another ship that has sailed. I'm hoping the Tory trans shitshow will die with the Tory government.

No incentive to be rich in this country

If say they get two terms then by the end of that ten years I’d expect nhs waiting lists to have reduced considerably. Hopefully public sector workers will be paid a bit better and there will be less strikes. Nothing will change immediately though.

@smilesup the most privileged are still going to private school. The approx 20% (will depend on location and type of school) who will no longer be able to go are the ones - like my dd2s best mate - who has 4 grandparents and 2 parents working hard and contributing to pay her fees and was an only child just to help with school fees (parents told me all of this). they are ordinary people with ordinary jobs who just wanted the smaller class sizes and other benefits to help their neurodiverse child.

If anything it will increase the social divide as private school will become unobtainable for all but the most privileged.

a great number of children expecting to progress to sixth form will be blocked by the huge influx of private school kids tutored to the max.

Doubtful. As my mum used to say “You can’t buy brains”.

these are kids who are moving from an academically selective private school - CAT scores around 130 to get in - who are predicted 7/8/9 at gcse. So they have the brains already and the tutoring is to secure the straight 9s. This is a London bubble - not replicated out of London I imagine.

Women with penises, lots more immigrants looking for handouts and a bankrupt country again.

@Bendysnap around my way people struggle to cover the bus fare to get their kids to secondary school (all working hard). 2 of mine of are ND and have to crack on at school. Perhaps a well funded state education system that could deal with the 1 in 10 ND kids would be better than one that was set up to help the kids that parents manage to pay for it (however hard).

Same shit, different policies, higher taxes, more borrowing & public debt. More misogyny, racism, inefficiency, incompetence, blame and delusion. They are all the same. We've seen it all before.

We’re seeing it all right now. Highest taxes for 70 years and public debt at record levels. Are you people sleep walking through life?

You'll be disappointed then.

They already plan to weaken the system, without even reviewing what's going right or wrong. That's a prelude to further erosions and full on self-ID

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/26/labour-grassroots-back-starmer-gender-self-identification

"support for making the process of obtaining a gender recognition certificate far simpler and less invasive, as well as continuing to ensure some single-sex services and places could only be accessed by biological women."

"Two-thirds (67%) approved of Labour’s new policy to streamline the securing of a gender recognition certificate by removing a panel of doctors and lawyers from the process, allowing a single doctor to diagnose “gender dysphoria”. The party has said that continuing to require a diagnosis “upholds legitimacy of applications and confidence in the system”."

Plus they're cosying up to the architects of it all. July 2023

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12304879/With-Keir-Starmer-unable-define-woman-no-wonder-Stonewall-targeting-Labour.html

Some Stonewall key moves to and from Labour at the same time. Oct 2023:

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1714274070643318939?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/news/catherine-dixon-appointed-stonewall-chair

Then there's the fact Starmer said he would bring it in and hasn't rowed back on that. Pink News might have scrubbed the video but there are copies.

https://x.com/sorellearduino/status/1637412777684860929?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

@BIossomtoes

"Doubtful. As my mum used to say “You can’t buy brains”"

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True but money can buy a load of one to one or small class tutoring and exam technique which means even the lower abilities can compete with the higher abilities.

Years spent sorting out the mess this bunch of charlatans have created. Then the country will blame them for some misdemeanour. Vote back in the right and more social divide...then repeat

Which is entirely wrong.

Sod all. Only political nerds and Guardian readers believe that changing political parties makes any difference to the state of the country.

It did in 1997 to 2010 - for the better. And again from 2010 onwards - very much for the worse.

No it’s not.
Plus it’s not corrupt and law breaking.