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Divorced but called 'Mrs'

124 replies

Sweetsweetgrass · 24/11/2023 21:10

I am divorced and engaged to my new partner. I kept my previous married name due to the children who are still young.

My future MIL has sent a Christmas card to my partner and I and addressed it to 'Mr x & Mrs y'. We only got engaged earlier this year but she knows I am divorced and due to marry her son (we've been dating a few years). I found it really inappropriate to address me as Mrs, verging on insulting. It's really got to me because that relationship is over, I've moved on from a difficult time and I cannot understand why she's addressed me as 'Mrs' when I'm not and she knows that.

How would you feel?

OP posts:
BrimfulOfMash · 25/11/2023 08:24

How on earth is it insulting?

And is she supposed to know?

UnremarkableBeasts · 25/11/2023 08:26

Do you always completely overthink things?

GreyhpundGirl · 25/11/2023 08:32

My mum remained Mrs, and I know a few people that remained as Mrs. If you have kept your married name, it's not surprising unless you have explicitly told her that you have kept your married name but prefer to be addressed as (presumably) Ms

InSpainTheRain · 25/11/2023 08:44

Unless you have explicitly told her your title is Ms, then YABU. How is she supposed to know?

hopeishere · 25/11/2023 08:59

I'm lost.

Your future MIL addressed your Mrs FutureSurname. Is that right?

What did you want her to do?

RiderofRohan · 25/11/2023 09:08

WellHereIAmAgain · 25/11/2023 07:05

Maybe if you didn’t “let it slide” you could be a tiny part of that ingrained misogyny being “just” a tiny bit less. If you don’t call it out, what’s going to change?

My CEO introduced me as Mrs Myname at a meeting of about 100 people a few weeks back. Has never referred to me by anything but Firstname Surname before so I was surprised. Afterwards I asked him not to do that again, explained I don’t use Mrs and he apologised profusely. He said he hasn’t been thought before saying it and hasn’t done it since. I threatened to send the actual Mrs Myname to see him if he did (my mother!). I’m hopeful he might think twice before assuming for other women in future.

I think that's great and really important if it is someone you have a professional relationship with and they will likely do it again. But I'm Dr in my professional life so don't encounter this. It's mainly one off such as at the dentist, car showroom, etc. For me it's not worth correcting these occurrences every time seeing I'll likely never interact with these people again.

MrsMarzetti · 25/11/2023 09:08

MereDintofPandiculation · 24/11/2023 22:34

I wish someone would tell my bank that! I gave up trying to change my married name on my bank account back to my maiden name when they told me (after to-and-froing for several months) I needed a Deed poll.

Take your birth certificate in and demand they change it.

BitOutOfPractice · 25/11/2023 09:13

She’s not even your mil yet and you are already looking for ways to be offended by her. It literally doesn’t matter. At all. I usually hate this phrase on mn but if that’s how big your problems are, you must live a charmed life. Honestly, get a grip!

SurelySmartie · 25/11/2023 09:15

Yes my mother was Mrs Marriedname for years after getting divorced. I use Ms.
I think it is partly a generational thing.

Whiskerson · 25/11/2023 09:18

hopeishere · 25/11/2023 08:59

I'm lost.

Your future MIL addressed your Mrs FutureSurname. Is that right?

What did you want her to do?

No. The OP still uses her married surname, and that's the one the MIL addressed her with. The "problem" is that MIL used Mrs and the OP happens to prefer Ms now.

Fantasia99 · 25/11/2023 09:19

Really don't know how people get through life being so horribly offended by everything.

WellHereIAmAgain · 25/11/2023 09:19

RiderofRohan · 25/11/2023 09:08

I think that's great and really important if it is someone you have a professional relationship with and they will likely do it again. But I'm Dr in my professional life so don't encounter this. It's mainly one off such as at the dentist, car showroom, etc. For me it's not worth correcting these occurrences every time seeing I'll likely never interact with these people again.

But they will, presumably, interact with other women…….

WellHereIAmAgain · 25/11/2023 09:24

RoseMarigoldViolet · 25/11/2023 08:23

I don’t think it’s worth worrying about. She probably wasn’t sure what to put so went with Mrs. It is not worth being concerned about.

It’s only an issue for women, though. Which is worth being concerned about.

Whiskerson · 25/11/2023 09:28

GrumpyPanda · 24/11/2023 23:06

Mrs isn't the default though. Certainly not default newspaper usage for any woman who isn't using it off her own bat. I would feel insulted too, independently of whether it was appended to my own name or some bloke's.

I find newspapers tend to drop titles altogether these days, and just refer to "Smith" whether male or female.

But regardless, when you've known someone to be married and then divorced, I think it's bad manners to presume any change in how they are addressed. It's not for me to revoke anyone's right to Mrs - as if to say "well, without your husband, you won't be needing that!". I've known divorced women get quite hurt by people starting to address them by a different title or by their maiden name, without being asked.

RiderofRohan · 25/11/2023 09:34

WellHereIAmAgain · 25/11/2023 09:19

But they will, presumably, interact with other women…….

Most of who do not go by Dr.

Mystero · 25/11/2023 09:35

Whiskerson · 25/11/2023 09:18

No. The OP still uses her married surname, and that's the one the MIL addressed her with. The "problem" is that MIL used Mrs and the OP happens to prefer Ms now.

She said her MIL addressed it to "Mr and Mrs Y" though - are you saying she was referring to her son as Mr her-current-name? I agree with @hopeishere it's confusing.

Not that it matters much, I'm just curious.

Whiskerson · 25/11/2023 09:36

Mystero · 25/11/2023 09:35

She said her MIL addressed it to "Mr and Mrs Y" though - are you saying she was referring to her son as Mr her-current-name? I agree with @hopeishere it's confusing.

Not that it matters much, I'm just curious.

No, she said

My future MIL has sent a Christmas card to my partner and I and addressed it to 'Mr x & Mrs y'.

WellHereIAmAgain · 25/11/2023 09:50

RiderofRohan · 25/11/2023 09:34

Most of who do not go by Dr.

That’s the point.

RiderofRohan · 25/11/2023 10:02

WellHereIAmAgain · 25/11/2023 09:50

That’s the point.

Right.

MereDintofPandiculation · 25/11/2023 11:33

MrsMarzetti · 25/11/2023 09:08

Take your birth certificate in and demand they change it.

You think I haven't tried that? Grin

MereDintofPandiculation · 25/11/2023 11:38

CesareBorgia · 25/11/2023 02:26

I am happily married but prefer 'Ms' - trying to get this to stick is like pissing into the wind! Special mention to my GP surgery (with whom I was registered before marriage) who, despite my repeated corrections, have me down as 'Miss CesareBorgia Married Name" 🙄

My GP surgery keep calling me Mrs maiden name. I've never ever been married to my Dad.

WearyAuldWumman · 25/11/2023 20:42

MereDintofPandiculation · 24/11/2023 22:30

Back in the days when the norm was to use "Mr and Mrs Hisname Surname", the wife was known as Mrs Husband'sname Surname, and this continued even when husband had been dead for years.

Calling a wife by"Mrs Hername Surname" implied she was divorced, and since divorce still carried a stigma in those days, addressing a letter to Mrs Hername Surname could cause great offence. I had to be quite careful addressing Christmas cards to my great aunts.

I always thought that Mrs Hername Husband's Surname used to signify that the woman concerned was a widow?

JosieRay · 25/11/2023 20:54

Been divorced 25 years. Still called Mrs Ex H’s surname. Don’t care, it’s my name.

MereDintofPandiculation · 25/11/2023 21:38

WearyAuldWumman · 25/11/2023 20:42

I always thought that Mrs Hername Husband's Surname used to signify that the woman concerned was a widow?

No, because otherwise there wouldn't be a way of indicating a divorcee. Mrs Wallis Simpson? Hard to fond anything definitive in Google - lots about today's usage, very little about usage in the 50s. But Mrs John Watson for a widow, Mrs Ada Watson for a divorcee was what I was taught. (I wrote a lot of thank-you letters to widowed great aunts)

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