To think that this government are at war with disabled people and always have been?

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I am assuming that the part of their UC that will be cut is the disabled element? Most people can’t even get this at all if you are disabled. The rules to receive it in the first place are extremely strict.

Why us nobody talking about this? Has our society now become brainwashed with the idea that it’s acceptable to call disabled people with significant needs benefit scroungers?

Why is it the most vulnerable being shat on from a great height, over and over??

So are quite a few people, judging by this thread!

This is bollocks.

Im not going to post at length about it, because I can see there's no point, but I'm not letting this kind of ignorance stand unanswered.

@ElevenSeven it's sad that this level of ignorance exists. You have no clue what you're talking about.

It’s what many think. They just can’t say it out loud.

Plenty of people thought the earth was flat. The fact ignorance exists doesn't change the fact it is ignorance.

It doesn't make it ok because a lot of people think it. It's abject nonsense.

I can see you've never encountered a family member with mental health issues and think that you are above it?

Well, your views are frightening. I really hope no one close to you is ever diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and discloses it to you.

It's wicked, preying on some of the most vulnerable people in society.

One of the things which I haven't seen mentioned much is that if you have chronic illnesses and disabilities, you are likely to need a lot of time off work, both for medical appointments and treatment, or because you are simply too unwell to work.

That is not compatible with most jobs and you will get sacked for it after not too long, so holding down a job in that situation is difficult.

We know this already, we also know that there are many, many ignorant people.
I don't know why you think you are an authority on anxiety and depression.

I don't agree with it as a disabled person who does work but also gets pip. While it doesn't help the length your claim is open with DWP from the day you applied is back paid after a successful tribunal . BUT it doesn't help if you have pip and lose it as suddenly it becomes very hard to get a blue badge and you lose a lot .

there is some real evil and hard cruelty on this thread

Can you link to the blog?

They are discussing it on 'the last leg'.

@IClaudine that seems a bit cruel can't you just google it?

There certainly is.

This isn't even about cutting the Benefits bill or saving public money, because any savings made by forcing people into work who aren't fit for it, or simply stopping their claims, will be completely outweighed by the cost of administration. All significant changes to benefits are inevitably a shitshow that costs far more than they save, this will be no different.

The unfortunate thing is that their will be real people's lives destroyed by this nonsense, but don't for none minute think that it's being driven by an honest belief that it will cut spending, because it wont, and the Government understands that fine and well.

This is pure soundbite populism of the worst sort, intended to raise the hackles of the sort of people who form their entire world view from the complete shite they read in rags like the Mail, shite that is fully intended to pander to their already existing prejudices and misconceptions about issues like disability, and what your typical benefit claimant might look like. It buys the Government a few kudos points with the ignorant because they are perceived to be tough on "scroungers", even though the bulk of the people this will affect are no such thing, and it won't achieve it's stated purpose in the first place.

Human casualties of course, but this government, and the sort of ignorant muppets who take things like this on face value couldn't care less about other human beings if it means they get to revel in their own ignorance for a bit.

I'm interested what you think the purpose of government is? I know some people believe health, social care and education are outside the remit of government, but they have been part of government in the uk for longer than my lifetime.

I think the issue is that there has been a massive, massive increase in those claiming they can't work due to ill health since the pandemic. Many are, for example, MH or back pain related. Some could work in another field, but cannot work in previous one etc. I'd be fine with encouraging them back into work if they had good support through the DWP and/or healthcare.

I don't think it is actually in the interests of most people to not work at all if they could work, especially if they are otherwise low on human interactions and relationships. Quite how these jobs appear is a different and difficult matter though.

I'm actually shocked that anyone thinks that anxiety disorder is 'sitting at home thinking about your feelings'.

It's not my job to educate the ignorant but I will explain one of my adult daughter's situation. She's the only one of my children who is NT. She's a talented young designer who almost had to give it all up due to debilitating anxiety. Her anxiety was so bad that she lost all of her creative talent. She was woken up in the night by painful panic attacks which caused extreme pain in her chest. She was so, so unhappy and lost herself. We were all incredibly worried about her.

Luckily, she is now on medication and is back to her old, happy self but we had to really push for this medication for her because doctors were against prescribing it for her. Medication sadly isn't going to solve everyone's anxiety though. I'm thankful that there has been a relatively easy solution to make her well again. I remember the day I knew she was feeling better because I realised she was humming.

I am really not trying to be cruel, just the opposite in fact!

Perhaps I am wrong, but the implication seems to be that the blogger is somehow doing something wrong and I very much doubt they are. Especially as PIP is not means tested, so mentioning the family's income is totally irrelevant.

(And obviously taking away someone's money to sanction them for not finding suitable work on the basis of a thin assessment by the DWP has the potential for inhumane results)

Yes massive rise in mh disorders since covid and also in teens/ young people. Also long covid is a real problem for many.

Stomacharmeleon actually, having given it a bit more thought, you might be right. Linking to it here might send some of the nastier elements on MN over to that blog.

Absolutely this.

Only 2 words sum this up
TORY SCUM