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To think that this government are at war with disabled people and always have been?

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MyopicBunny · 24/11/2023 20:20

I am assuming that the part of their UC that will be cut is the disabled element? Most people can’t even get this at all if you are disabled. The rules to receive it in the first place are extremely strict.

Why us nobody talking about this? Has our society now become brainwashed with the idea that it’s acceptable to call disabled people with significant needs benefit scroungers?

Why is it the most vulnerable being shat on from a great height, over and over??

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MyopicBunny · 26/11/2023 20:02

Yes, that's very true! They have screwed over anyone who uses state schools and the NHS, for one. But disabled people are the most vulnerable and have less ability to change their situation.

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ilovesooty · 26/11/2023 20:55

yellowspanner · 26/11/2023 18:14

I also have fibromyalgia and I work full time. We have a disabled close family member who does not claim because they don't want to. Family sort it out.
So don't tell me I'm don't know about disability.
I do.
But I still think the government should try to get as many people as possible into work.

You know about your own disability, not about anyone else's.

It's nice for your family to have the money to care for your disabled relative.

You have plenty of money and you have no understanding of what life is like for someone with enduring disabling health conditions and without the freedom and empowerment that money gives.

pointythings · 26/11/2023 21:32

@ilovesooty well, exactly. If you're blockheaded enough not to realise that having money in the family makes a massive difference to disabled people, you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Familyiness · 26/11/2023 22:41

Fibromyaglia is different for everyone. My fatigue hits me and I can't do anything. There's no way, I tried doing 2 hrs a day 5 days a week, did it for 3 months and it made me so poorly. I have other things too aswell as the Fibromyaglia.
Nothing is black and white, no employer is going to accept me needing a couple of days of a week. I never know what I am going to wake up like. I had a business I had to give up, as I couldn't fulfil the jobs due to pain in my hands.

MyOtherNameToday · 30/11/2023 15:40

If nothing else comes out of any reforms I hope the government will at least fund mental health services properly to properly support people in recovering from poor mental health. This includes funding proper trauma therapy for those affected rather than simply offering people 6 sessions of CBT which can be helpful for some but for others is as useful as sticking a plaster on a severed artery.

But it should not be the case that people experience anxiety or depression and it becomes a lifelong disability. That just evidences a broken healthcare system and a fragmented society with poor social structures. Anxiety and depression are treatable for the overwhelming majority of people.

Itsuitsyou · 30/11/2023 17:07

@MyOtherNameToday Good luck with the trauma therapy. My dh has been waiting 3 years for his PTSD therapy. He's had CBT which he absolutely hated and it did nothing for him. He's under our local CMHT but we haven't seen his caseworker for weeks, if he's not off sick or on holiday he simply forgets to turn up. The Government should be concentrating on getting mental health services running more efficiently not picking on unemployed sick and disabled people!

LollipopViolet · 30/11/2023 17:33

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 24/11/2023 21:28

It is a shame that the same government is proposing to limit civil service workers to one or two days working at home when many could work primarily from home. If the government doesn't want to make it easy for disabled people to work for them at home, why should other employers?

I'm a civil servant with a disability. 3 days working from home allows me to manage it so much better, because I can control my work environment more, but no, someone on high says we have to do 60% office based, so we jump.

We've been told that reasonable adjustments will not be affected if this includes working from home. I have my doubts. My own line manager is very much "Oh well, never mind."

Prior to the civil service I had years of job centres, being forced onto employability courses, being questioned as to why a visually impaired person can't work in a busy warehouse and do nightshifts when public transport is appalling in our city, and threats of sanctions. I was once sanctioned for leaving a job to protect my mental health. For 8 weeks. Right before Christmas.

I do get PIP but had to endure 2 assessments as the assessor never bothered to send the first one off. I was awarded a 10 year award despite being on a lifetime DLA award previously. My condition has actually worsened and I need more support now than ever but I'm still dreading the reassessment.

As a disabled person, I am feeling more and more uncomfortable in this country.

Fraudornot · 30/11/2023 21:41

@LollipopViolet i totally agree with you - there is this constant threat generated by this government that everything will be pulled from the disabled. It’s cruel and no doubt will cost more to administer than it saves so all for nothing anyway.

MyOtherNameToday · 01/12/2023 13:28

Itsuitsyou · 30/11/2023 17:07

@MyOtherNameToday Good luck with the trauma therapy. My dh has been waiting 3 years for his PTSD therapy. He's had CBT which he absolutely hated and it did nothing for him. He's under our local CMHT but we haven't seen his caseworker for weeks, if he's not off sick or on holiday he simply forgets to turn up. The Government should be concentrating on getting mental health services running more efficiently not picking on unemployed sick and disabled people!

Yes I think that's the exact point I made.

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