To think that this government are at war with disabled people and always have been?

[MyopicBunny]

I am assuming that the part of their UC that will be cut is the disabled element? Most people can’t even get this at all if you are disabled. The rules to receive it in the first place are extremely strict.

Why us nobody talking about this? Has our society now become brainwashed with the idea that it’s acceptable to call disabled people with significant needs benefit scroungers?

Why is it the most vulnerable being shat on from a great height, over and over??

I got lwcra very easily, only on the phone 15-20 mins before the guy said he had enough. I went back to uni at 30 to do the best for my kids, 6 months after graduation(kids were still on/off with covid school closure etc so waiting til after summer to go ) I'm hit with several neurological and cardiac problems.

My life will never be the same, especially as one of them requires intense therapy(hahaha)

wow. that is SERIOUSLY offensive.

even prehistoric societies took care of their disabled.

Its called being human. Its called civilised society. Its called a rich country, thats based upon a fiscal economy, supporting those who are unable to support themselves, and valuing them as equally desrving of dignity and a basic standard of living, and minimum.

@XenoBitch I agree - they make it sound reasonable but the reality is that an already disadvantaged person is being made much more so, with no help or support. It's a bit like when disabled people were told they had to move to a smaller home or lose money, but there was often no smaller home for them to move to.

@FelicityFlops because how we care for the vulnerable is a measure of progress of our society.

The problem is this:

-Person can't WFH due to disability
-Doctor agrees person can't WFH due to disability
-DWP assess person as able to WFH
-Benefits get cut
-Person lives in abject poverty

This government has repeatedly targeted the poorest and most vulnerable.

The government have repeatedly said there aren't enough tax payers to pay for it all.

How can they afford to cut tax, then??

They haven't cut tax.

@MyopicBunny i totally agree and I don’t want to sound as if I’m bashing - I’m not, I come on here and read horrific posts about people not being able to get the right support and I look at my friends who have sons who age receiving it and they are both on upwards of 50k individually - both sons have their own help in schools and the mum has a blog about travelling with the kids and their disabilities and I’m not saying it’s wrong but when I read on her people can’t access PIP etc it makes me question the system

Because we are humans living in a society.

Yes they have!

The government have always been on at anyone who is of work, by attaching conditions and putting pressure on etc.

They keep saying people must find work, but where are all these jobs going to come from?

They aren't creating the jobs?
You can never have full employment, and also unemployed people keep people in work.

They've just cut tax. Did you not read about the Autumn statement?

Are you thinking of national insurance contributions?

NI contributions are still a form of tax, are they not?

People with disabilities, yes.

Adults with anxiety, fuck no. I’m not working every day god sends so a grown adult can stay home and feel anxious or have depression, and do nothing long term.

I’m glad they want to change some of it.

Also, the Tories have repeatedly cut taxes for the rich since they got in. The richest have got much richer under this government. There were reports of the richest 1% quadrupling their wealth during the first 4 years of the coalition.

Governments are responsible for all people that live in the country they are governing. Disabled people fall under the umbrella of "people", don't they? 🤔

Yes, because people with depression and anxiety must be taking the piss. If only they could pull themselves together and just get a job.

What breath-taking ignorance you show about the most common MH conditions.

Adults with anxiety, fuck no. I’m not working every day god sends so a grown adult can stay home and feel anxious or have depression, and do nothing long term.

So, clearly you don't know anything about anxiety, then? Anxiety for some people is 5 painful panic attacks a day which have a debilitating effect. Or agoraphobia.

@Lifesd stop judging - you don’t know what extra expenses the disabilities bring into their lives.

I think it's not clear cut.
Just about everyone in my office has anxiety and depression to some extent. We turn up for ( mostly full time ) work day after day. But we have a supportive manager and a nice working environment. Not everyone has this or can find a supportive working environment to work in. Mental health problems can be debilitating.

IF the DWP assesments for PIP were done by real professional experts who had an understanding of the different conditions that people had and the struggles they faced, and were seen to be fair, rather than target driven to reduce a fraud that tribunals have repeatedly proven to be minimal, AND if the health service was functioning so that people with shorter term illnesses and health conditions actually got seen and recovered in good time, AND the MH services were running so that a referral could come in a matter of weeks for anyone who needed it, with the appropriate treatment plan for those suffering from MH issues, well then perhaps these proposals MIGHT be relevent. Indeed the need for them may not actually be irrelevent if this dream scenario were the case.

But as many people in similar threads on here have demonstrated, there is a lack of understanding or empathy for illness and disability - weve been funneled towards a view of suspicion and shirker when we consider these people, as a nation, of faking, of work shy, of feckless. And a shocking incomprehension of how the current system, across the board, functions for the disabled. Its a dangerous slope to allow yourself to fall down, because very soon you are asking yourself 'why are the government supporting the disabled', and then we are at the point that Germany were at at before the war - when the populace were led to believe that they were a drain on society, and they were marched off to the gas chambers.

NI is a tax.

This government are heartless. Most people don’t know or care, some actively want to see vulnerable people punished. Those who do care are outnumbered by the other categories.

We should be better than this.