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Libertass · 23/11/2023 13:14

Of 745,000 people a year isn’t what the 17 million people who voted for Brexit in 2016 thought they were voting for?

YABU = Yes, this is what Leave supporters voted for.

YANBI = No, they didn’t vote for this.

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greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 16:41

Do you honestly think that

The immigrants have a lot of health issues too

SoMuchSimpler · 24/11/2023 16:45

greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 16:41

Do you honestly think that

The immigrants have a lot of health issues too

We're constantly told by people of a certain outlook that all immigrants are young, fit, men.

greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 16:46

When I've been to hospital occasionally it's full of elderly people from overseas

greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 16:47

Yes they are immortal and don't use any healthcare etc

jgw1 · 24/11/2023 16:48

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 24/11/2023 14:21

It wasn’t funny to start with, it’s not funny now.

You worry me. It’s time to let go.

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I aspire to be as popular and humourless as the Prime Minister, but perhps I have some way to go yet.

jgw1 · 24/11/2023 16:50

ReadyForPumpkins · 24/11/2023 14:28

It doesn't matter about student numbers. If they are here for a 3 year course, then you have similar number leaving and coming. The net effect will be very low. However, if they are staying behind, and you have a big difference between studing coming and leaving, then net migration will show it.

It is what's Brexiters has voted for. They may just not understood what it means. It's like people buying an apartment in a retirement village, or buy now pay later or equity release. You can't blame people for not understanding what your vote means.

Because student numbers dropped during the pandemic and they are all allowed to stay for at least two years after they graduate the net effect is actually not insignificant at present, particularly as they have the right to bring their family as well.

jgw1 · 24/11/2023 16:52

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Some asylum seekers are highly qualified and many also highly skilled, doesn't stop some people wanting to send them to Rwanda.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 24/11/2023 16:52

jasflowers · 24/11/2023 14:31

They can, they return to their country of origin and apply for a work visa, same as most countries do.

As a young student from India said on the World Service last night "Yes its very expensive but a UK degree is worth far more than one from an India Uni" she had to prove she had tuition fees in the bank but not how she would fund her living costs.

If UK Uni's are so underfunded that they have to rely on huge numbers of overseas students, might i ask why we had a £21 billion tax cut this week?

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The thing is, it simply isn't true that students only have to show the finances for their fees. They do have to demonstrate that they have sufficient funds to support themselves, at least for the first year of study.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 24/11/2023 16:53

greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 16:46

When I've been to hospital occasionally it's full of elderly people from overseas

Do you interview them all to find out where they're from?

jgw1 · 24/11/2023 16:56

Angrycat2768 · 24/11/2023 15:49

Rishi Sunak was born in Southampton. He was on a student visa ( I think) to the US then went back to the country of his birth (Britain). Biris Johnson was born in the US.

You missed the part in his history where he was an economic migrant. Easily done, he sometimes forgets as well because he is a man of detail, also sometimes forgets that the law applies to him as well.

jgw1 · 24/11/2023 16:58

anniegun · 24/11/2023 16:15

There is no social housing and virtually no affordable housing in my local authority which has a population of which 95% was born in the UK. We cant get doctors appointments either

And yet I would wager that some of the over million empty homes in the UK are in that local authority area.

BansheeofInisherin · 24/11/2023 16:59

Going by some posters, if you are a skilled, high earning immigrant, you are part of the Empire and should go home.
But if you are an unskilled, low paid immigrant, you are a drain on the state and should go home.
If you are an international student, you should pay twice what locals pay and then go home.

I sense a theme....

Realist90 · 24/11/2023 17:00

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jgw1 · 24/11/2023 17:01

greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 16:46

When I've been to hospital occasionally it's full of elderly people from overseas

How can you tell those who are in hospital are from overseas, do you ask for their passports?

greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 17:02

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves

AbsolutelyHmm

Point is it's not true about it always being elderly born in the UK people using the health service and being a burden on taxpayers

jgw1 · 24/11/2023 17:03

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How is an overseas student who subsidises the education of UK students a net drain?

travelnorth · 24/11/2023 17:03

Here we go with the million empty homes. They are not going to go very far even if we expropriate the houses from the rightful owners like the communists do. Just may be check with the latest numbers recorded of people emigrating. This stuff of the empty houses really is beginning to sound like a broken record.

SoMuchSimpler · 24/11/2023 17:03

greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 16:46

When I've been to hospital occasionally it's full of elderly people from overseas

Oh. you meant people who've been here since the 50s and 60s, who've worked here all their lives? I assumed you meant recent immigrants.

Realist90 · 24/11/2023 17:04

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jgw1 · 24/11/2023 17:05

travelnorth · 24/11/2023 17:03

Here we go with the million empty homes. They are not going to go very far even if we expropriate the houses from the rightful owners like the communists do. Just may be check with the latest numbers recorded of people emigrating. This stuff of the empty houses really is beginning to sound like a broken record.

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It is a shame that people keep repeating that there is a housing crisis when there isnt. There is a housing distribution crisis.

Realist90 · 24/11/2023 17:07

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greengreengrass25 · 24/11/2023 17:08

I meant more recent immigrants

Let's face it some people have been able to bring in elderly relatives

travelnorth · 24/11/2023 17:08

What do you mean? Have not you seen the numbers of the last two years on net immigration? They surpassed the million people so please stop talking about those empty houses because even is free for all they are not enough. Do not pretend there is not a problem with the huge numbers arriving.

Realist90 · 24/11/2023 17:10

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IvorTheEngineDriver · 24/11/2023 17:10

If you think the Brexit vote was about immigration then you are deluded. But then in my view ALL those who voted "leave" were deluded and if things haven't turned out as they hoped, tuff shit.

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