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To feel sad seeing a 7 week old baby at DC's nursery today

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comfysketchers · 20/11/2023 14:35

Dropping my 15 month old off at nursery today before work and there was another woman there at the same time handing over a 7 week old sleeping baby.

He was absolutely tiny and I just felt so sad looking at him thinking that he barely even knows he is out of the womb and his mum is dropping him off to spend all day with strangers in a noisy nursery environment.

I should also add that I live in a country that has excellent parental leave from the government plus most private companies pay at least 10 weeks of full pay on top of that, with many paying much more than that.

YABU - It’s perfectly normal for a 7 week old baby to spend 8 hours per day in a nursery.

YANBU - A 7 week old baby should be at home with its mum.

OP posts:
Shopkinsprincess1986 · 20/11/2023 17:01

The point I’m making (rather younger in cheeky) that the OP is coming across as very judgmental about a baby being in nursery when in fact - she’s putting her (still extremely young) child in nursery.

Tumbleweed101 · 20/11/2023 17:01

It's very rare for babies to be in nursery so young. We've had a couple on a temporary basis over the years but never for the parent working reasons, they have been essential reasons such as hospitalisation etc.

CeeChynaa · 20/11/2023 17:02

SAHMs having an opinion and judging other parents for placing their child in nursery whilst they have the luxury to be - wait for it - SAHMs✨

You couldn’t make that shit up. Some of us are in the real world where we have to work because we don’t have a partner or a partner that’s a high earner

Nicknacky · 20/11/2023 17:02

WinterDeWinter · 20/11/2023 17:00

well, maybe a maternity allowance that meant that no one has to put a newborn in nursery? Just thinking aloud.

You seem to think this can only be about money……

Comedycook · 20/11/2023 17:02

From my point of view, my daughter won't remember whether she was in nursery at 8 months or a year

This is a silly thing to say. I don't remember anything of my life prior to the age of two . That doesn't mean that everything that happened to me during that period was irrelevant or unimportant.

WinterDeWinter · 20/11/2023 17:02

BellaCriesAndThatsAlright · 20/11/2023 16:58

But the world isn't that perfect is it? Men will always have the upper hand if they playing field isn't levelled for women.

No, men will have the upper hand as long as they have women like you to do the job of persuading other women that equality of opportunity is the same as equity.

Maraa · 20/11/2023 17:02

I think it’s absolutely none of your business to be honest.

EarringsandLipstick · 20/11/2023 17:02

Missingmyusername · 20/11/2023 17:00

@EarringsandLipstick It’s an opinion. You don’t have to like it or agree with it BUT I am entitled to it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sure.

But answer the rest of my post ... what do you suggest working mothers of 15 mo do so?

I mean, it's an opinion that is grounded in illogicality.

Sparklesocks · 20/11/2023 17:02

Shopkinsprincess1986 · 20/11/2023 16:55

Hmmmm….i feel sad seeing under 3’s in daycare. Unpop opinion but it’s not great for the kids (cortisol, aggression etc) but people have to be allowed to make decisions that fit with their lives. Glass houses and all that.

The fact is a lot of people have to. Surviving on one income is just not an option for many families these days, which means childcare is needed while both parents work. It would be wonderful if everyone could have a parent stay home with the kids until school age but the reality is that’s only possible for the wealthy or if you have enough benefits to live on as a family.

wensleywhale · 20/11/2023 17:03

wokbun · 20/11/2023 15:59

For all you know her mental health needs a break

Don't we all need a mental health break

SouthLondonMum22 · 20/11/2023 17:03

WinterDeWinter · 20/11/2023 16:56

Feminism doesn’t mean we pretend that women’s biological differences don’t exist.

it means we accommodate them such that women and the babies they bear are not negatively impacted by those differences.

Market capitalism has co-opted feminism and sold you back a lie.

But all women are different regardless of biology.

I didn't want to take a long maternity leave
I enjoy my career
I don't feel guilty for putting my baby in nursery

It doesn't make me any less of a mother than the one who is a SAHM with school children, it makes us both happy and privileged mothers as we both got to make our ideal choice.

KaylaDetmer · 20/11/2023 17:03

I doubt mum feels good either but you have no idea of their situation.

bluestar5 · 20/11/2023 17:03

In my home country you are lucky if you get 4-6 weeks! To them 7 months would be unheard of and pure luxury. It's not your for you to judge but instead for you to count your blessings.

Alwayswonderedwhy · 20/11/2023 17:03

Far too young but the parents must have very good reason to leave their baby. To be honest I feel similar about people leaving children under 3 but it's none of my business.

BellaCriesAndThatsAlright · 20/11/2023 17:04

WinterDeWinter · 20/11/2023 17:02

No, men will have the upper hand as long as they have women like you to do the job of persuading other women that equality of opportunity is the same as equity.

... or maybe women like you that still prefer to judge other women. I feel no guilt for my childcare choices.

Doublerainbow23 · 20/11/2023 17:04

You've no idea what the reasons are OP. I'd feel sad for the baby, yes, but there could be very very good reasons why this is for the best.

IDoughnutKnow · 20/11/2023 17:04

@MargotBamborough
Nursery/not nursery was a big "thing" when my children were born (first one was born in 2000). There were endless public debates about it, including on here.
This was the kind of research that was around then:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/oct/02/childrensservices.familyandrelationships

I spent years frequenting playgroups, NCT coffee mornings etc and you could always tell which children spent time at nursery and which children were looked after by their parents. The latter were less aggressive, more confident, and far more articulate - and these were all middle-class, educated families, so the bar was already high.

Official: babies do best with mother

One of the longest and most detailed studies of UK childcare has concluded that young children who are looked after by their mothers do significantly better in developmental tests than those cared for in nurseries, by childminders or relatives.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/oct/02/childrensservices.familyandrelationships

Nicknacky · 20/11/2023 17:04

Alwayswonderedwhy · 20/11/2023 17:03

Far too young but the parents must have very good reason to leave their baby. To be honest I feel similar about people leaving children under 3 but it's none of my business.

Who looked after your child while you worked?

remindersofhim · 20/11/2023 17:05

The reality is that my DC didn't give a crap who they were with or where they were at 7 weeks and I never felt the urge to be near them like so many describe on here. I feel like you get shot down for saying it on here but it was true for me and I'm sure is true for many others. They certainly cared at 15 months though.

WinterDeWinter · 20/11/2023 17:05

Nicknacky · 20/11/2023 17:02

You seem to think this can only be about money……

Well, financial need is the reason most frequently put forward in the thread.

Comedycook · 20/11/2023 17:05

It doesn't make me any less of a mother than the one who is a SAHM with school children, it makes us both happy and privileged mothers as we both got to make our ideal choice

The problem with this statement is it focuses entirely on the needs and wants of the mothers rather than the children.

Baffledandalarmed · 20/11/2023 17:07

WeeSleekitCowrinTimrousBeastie · 20/11/2023 14:59

You have absolutely no idea what the reasons are behind this. Its really easy to judge but you don't have any information to base it on.

I am really surprised that the staff were discussing this with you. How unprofessional of them. Are you not concerned about what they are sharing about you and your child with others?

This.

Completely inappropriate for them to be telling you this and for you to think that's okay!

I'd hate to think what they say about your baby and your choices to other parents.

Chilottane · 20/11/2023 17:07

Comedycook · 20/11/2023 17:05

It doesn't make me any less of a mother than the one who is a SAHM with school children, it makes us both happy and privileged mothers as we both got to make our ideal choice

The problem with this statement is it focuses entirely on the needs and wants of the mothers rather than the children.

I think, TBH, that this is pretty typical of the current way of thinking across society in general and not unique to women or to mothers - "you do you", "as long as you're happy" etc. I appreciate it's comforting to hear (from personal experience!) but I don't know if it's really the most intelligent viewpoint.

BellaCriesAndThatsAlright · 20/11/2023 17:07

Comedycook · 20/11/2023 17:05

It doesn't make me any less of a mother than the one who is a SAHM with school children, it makes us both happy and privileged mothers as we both got to make our ideal choice

The problem with this statement is it focuses entirely on the needs and wants of the mothers rather than the children.

But the needs of the mother are tied to the needs of the child. Would the child be better off with a mother who had no choice but to stay at home for years and was depressed?

Comedycook · 20/11/2023 17:07

The reality is that my DC didn't give a crap who they were with or where they were at 7 weeks

You really think children have no bond with their mothers nor can differentiate between their mother and other people?