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Ridiculous comments about red hair

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SweetSouls · 18/11/2023 12:41

My child has a lot of fiery red hair. They are a year old.

They get lots of nice comments - old ladies in particular love him.

However I get some weird ones too. ‘Still ginger’, one of my friends comments whenever they see him.

Well this morning on the train, a woman came up to me to tell me my child would be very badly bullied at school because of the way they look.

They are one year old. Why would someone come and say that to me? It is absolutely bizarre.

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Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 13:19

MyopicBunny · 18/11/2023 13:16

Ok, I can see where the Coolwhip is coming from. It's because the OP compared mean comments about hair colour to mean comments about skin colour. It's fair enough to point out that racism really can't be compared with any teasing a white person might experience for whatever reason.

Thanks @MyopicBunny

Meemoos · 18/11/2023 13:19

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mondaytosunday · 18/11/2023 13:20

My dd has auburn hair and though not a fiery red is often identified as a 'fellow ginger'. It is also long, thick and wavy, and it is inevitably the one thing everyone, but everyone, compliments her on. My father was thrilled - he had a soft spot for red heads!
It does make her stand out which is a mixed blessing.

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 13:21

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So what was the ‘it’ you were referring to then? Coz it’s pretty obvious to all.

Grimed · 18/11/2023 13:21

Coolhwip needs to coolit 🤣 Good lord imagine being that fragile. Let OP have her post back.

RonObvious · 18/11/2023 13:22

daliesque · 18/11/2023 12:51

I'm a fellow ginger. Have had the comments all my life too and, as I got older, especially the inexplicable fascination with the colour of,our pubes.

Red hair is gorgeous and as your child gets,older they will realise that lots and lots of women spend an absolutely fortune paying to have their hair dyed the same colour as they have got for free.

What is with the obsession with our pubes? And why was it acceptable for random adult men to ask me about my pubic hair from the age of about 12 or 13? And of course, any sign that you weren’t happy about this just showed that you “needed to get a sense of humour”. People are so weird about red hair.

Sauvblanctime · 18/11/2023 13:24

I LOOOVEEE red hair! Ignore them, or make a comment about theirs back!

WeeSleekitCowrinTimrousBeastie · 18/11/2023 13:25

@Coolhwip I can see where you are coming from and a few of your early posts were really helpful and informative.

But at the same time we should be able to discuss gingerism and anti-Celtic heritage prejudice.

All prejudice and bigotry is bad. It's not a competition.

TooTiredTo · 18/11/2023 13:25

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 12:51

Imagine if you commented on a baby’s skin colour in a negative way.

It’s not the same. I hate when this line is trotted out. Hmm

It’s discrimination. It’s the same

WeeSleekitCowrinTimrousBeastie · 18/11/2023 13:27

@SweetSouls have you come up with any good retorts yet to the ginger bashers?

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 13:28

WeeSleekitCowrinTimrousBeastie · 18/11/2023 13:25

@Coolhwip I can see where you are coming from and a few of your early posts were really helpful and informative.

But at the same time we should be able to discuss gingerism and anti-Celtic heritage prejudice.

All prejudice and bigotry is bad. It's not a competition.

Thanks. No issues with discussing gingerism and anti-Celtic heritage prejudice, which is deplorable, but I think people need to be responsible for what they say about people of colour.

I’m disappointed no one is challenging @Meemoos for her awful views.

Meemoos · 18/11/2023 13:28

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Iwasafool · 18/11/2023 13:29

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 12:57

Because your son will not be discriminated against when looking for a job.

Because he won’t be stopped and searched dozens of times.

Because he won’t be assumed to be a criminal or a terrorist.

Because people won’t campaign for him to be deported to where he came from based on his country of birth.

Don’t appropriate racism for him.

I'm a red head, my kids are mixed race. They have good jobs, never been stopped and searched, I don't think anyone has ever assumed they are criminals or terrorists but if they have they've kept it to themselves. They are in their country of birth so no mention of deportation.

On the other hand I've had lots of mickey taking, abuse about how ugly red heads are, what bad tempers we have etc. My black husband was shocked when he heard some of it.

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 13:29

TooTiredTo · 18/11/2023 13:25

It’s discrimination. It’s the same

I repeat

Because your son will not be discriminated against when looking for a job.

Because he won’t be stopped and searched dozens of times.

Because he won’t be assumed to be a criminal or a terrorist.

Because people won’t campaign for him to be deported to where he came from based on his country of birth.

Don’t appropriate racism for him.

Bivarb · 18/11/2023 13:30

Only 0.17 per cent of the population have red hair and blue eyes. Very rare and special!

It absolutely is not OK to bully someone for their hair colour. Particularly, when that red hair is an ethnic trait. There used to be signs outside shops stating no blacks or Irish. Educate people who comment negatively that it's rooted in bigotry and only a complete arsehole would bully a child over that.

Skin colour is a different issue, but it still doesn't make it OK to abuse a child over something they have no control over

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 13:30

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You know what you said. At least own it.

justjeansandanicetop · 18/11/2023 13:31

What exactly did the woman on the train say?

What was she expecting you to say / do about it?

Iwasafool · 18/11/2023 13:32

RonObvious · 18/11/2023 13:22

What is with the obsession with our pubes? And why was it acceptable for random adult men to ask me about my pubic hair from the age of about 12 or 13? And of course, any sign that you weren’t happy about this just showed that you “needed to get a sense of humour”. People are so weird about red hair.

Oh yes the ginger pubes, I could never figure that one out.

Willyoujustbequiet · 18/11/2023 13:32

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 12:57

Because your son will not be discriminated against when looking for a job.

Because he won’t be stopped and searched dozens of times.

Because he won’t be assumed to be a criminal or a terrorist.

Because people won’t campaign for him to be deported to where he came from based on his country of birth.

Don’t appropriate racism for him.

It is absolutely a form of racism as defined by the UN, EU etc.

Discrimination or prejudice based on ethnicity or nationality etc..

Stop gatekeeping.

Meemoos · 18/11/2023 13:33

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Willyoujustbequiet · 18/11/2023 13:34

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 12:58

Another one who needs to read a book.

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I suggest you do as you are out of step with recognised legal definitions.

Coolhwip · 18/11/2023 13:35

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You said the below. If you stand by it, why can’t you say what the ‘it’ you’re referring to is?

It's just made up nonsense. It doesnt exist here. Everyone just trying so hard to be a victim and pretend to be oppressed all the time...so boring and pathetic. And pretty insulting to those who experience actual hardship.

Watto1 · 18/11/2023 13:35

My dd had a mop of ginger curls as a baby (still has!). I remember a lady on the bus exclaiming “What lovely hair! Is it natural?” As if I’d be perming and dyeing a toddler’s hair!

Fionaville · 18/11/2023 13:36

I remember when my firstborn was about 6 months old, sitting up in her pram with a little summer hat on, A 'friend' of my DM came over and lifted her hat up said "Oh no" and put the hat back on. I was so crushed. My DDs hair was red and beautiful. I always regret not telling the stupid woman off, I just stood there shocked. This was 20+ years ago. I thought times had changed now. Hopefully it's just the older generation with this horrid view.

Meemoos · 18/11/2023 13:36

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