To think State education is really poor?

[Boswelian]

We sent our eldest to a taster day at a private school. He was agog. His school don't allow playing on the grass when it's wet. The private school change them into waterproofs and wellies for break. PE 3x a week. Sport every day. Dedicated specialist teaching in art, DT, languages, sciences etc. 16 in a class instead of 30. The difference in the quality of life between the two school has really blown my mind. The state school is "outstanding". The private school reckon DS is 2 years behind their curriculum. We've been told in state that he's meeting expectations. How is this remotely acceptable?

I know someone who was “the scholarship kid” at private school. It was unbearable. They were constantly reminded that their parents could really afford the fees/trips etc. fuck off would I want my kids in that sort of environment, on either side of that.

I didn’t. Many people don’t prioritise education in this country. The notion of sacrificing something to allow prioritisation of education is anathema to many.

Reminded by whom?

In my experience nobody has any idea who is paying what towards fees. The only ones that doesn’t apply to is military children as everyone knows how their places are funded.

Some kids from really poor state school do get the grades, yes, often because teachers like me have sat with them through every break time and holiday to ensure they do. That’s not necessary with private kids for a number of reasons. And no, I don’t mean those state school kids don’t deserve them because they damn well do but they’ve actually often had a lot more hand-holding. There are not a lot of debating opportunities in the state sector (with the noticeable exception of grammar schools, some of which have jaw-droppingLy good setups for it). Extra-curricular activities in general are a lot more limited in the state sector and there are virtually no opportunities to pursue it in lessons. With regard to debating, I was actually thinking more of Law but it also does help with verbal communication for doctors too. There’s really no more point in replying to you though, because you have a very black and white view, when in reality the world, including eduction, comes in shades of grey. It’s also apparent that you haven’t spent any significant amount of time actually teaching at opposite ends of education.

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Handholding is not what you get in the state system with multiple classes of 30 and tired stressed out teachers handling underfunding, poverty, SEN and Ofsted.

The handholding happens in the private sector with the classes below 15, old boys club, money, parents paying teachers fees, prep classes…..

I suspect this is why those from private schools and the same marks as state kids do less well at uni. They don’t cope so well with having limited support, large classes and no contacts.

The other kids from what I’ve been told. They certainly don’t have many lasting friends from school. I don’t know how they knew but kids aren’t stupid. When you come in on the bus instead of being driven, haven’t been skiing in half term and your mum is a nurse I’m sure they put two and two together.

This post is ridiculous.

It is a Kirsty Allsopp's "drop the gym membership, Netflix subscription and lattes and of course you can afford a house" type of comment.

The vast majority of people in this country could not afford private education regardless of the sacrifices they make. How can you not know that?

The chip on your shoulder appears to have grown into a full sack of spuds!

That's really strange because scholarships are awarded on academic ability and only attract a small fee reduction ie 5-10%. They are viewed with pride as a high status thing.

For bursaries no-one will be told who is on a bursary.

Jeez. Not a good look. Sneering and supercilious.

Okaaaay. You’re paying for handholding, don’t try and tell is all it’s the state sector that have their hands held. Look at the title of the thread. 😂😂😂😂

Depends on the school. Everyone buses to DDs school because it is rural.
Mostly a farming cohort with 1 or 2 oil parents from Scotland. The majority are just normal people and the car park ranges from fiestas through to Range Rovers. Money just isn't talked about and according to DD there is no bullying/bragging about how much money mum and dad have got.

The non middle class kids in a grammar school can get a hard time too. Particularly as there are so very, very few of them.

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"The majority are just normal people and the car park ranges from fiestas through to Range Rovers."

No beaten up old Volvos?

So many bitter judgmental posters on this thread.

Judging schools, children and adults that they know nothing about.

Sad really.

They’ll be fewer soon

I’m just about the least supercilious person imaginable.

I do though call out nonsense and unsubstantiated comments as they add nothing to any debate. If someone is a repeat offender it’s not unreasonable to point this out.

Somebody disagreeing with you isn’t nonsense.

@opticalconclusion "So many bitter judgmental posters on this thread.

Judging schools, children and adults that they know nothing about. "

Yep. Judging and whisking their children away from the great unwashed.

The odd Forrester.
I myself drive a 10 Yr old Kia. Does that count? It has a bashed in door if that helps?

Where did I mention disagreement? I’m talking about unsubstantiated comments. I’m sure you don’t need me to explain the difference.

Not seeing any unsubstantiated comments from me. Maybe you need to look at your own.

Nope. Needs to be a 25 year old Audi that you bought from the auctions, service yourself and use retreads because who needs to spend money on tyres?

Self awareness is not your strong suit I suspect.

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